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Actually I started this thread.

I agree- we're not as bad as we think we sound to the next person.  I'm still nervous though. :-[

I am glad you started this thread, Mary.

I also hate speaking in front of crowds, and it only gets worse the older I get.  I was okay with it in undergrad, but now that I have been out of college for 4 yrs., it terrifies me. 

I was surprised when I first learned we would have to get up and argue in front of judges the first year of law school, and it scares me half to death, but I think it will be good in the end because I will have conquered a fear.  I think it is a vast MINORITY of people that are naturally comfortable with public speaking, so we are mostly all in the same boat.  The thing I try to remember is that I always think I sound dumber than everyone else who is listening does. 

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Thanks, that's what I thought! :D

The Aspen primers are any of the Examples and Explanations series books.  They are all published by Aspen Publishing.

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Great, thanks.

Silly question but what is the Aspen primer?

I have it; I couldn't recommend it more. Atticus Falcon recommends it over the Aspen primer, but I haven't read that one yet (my friend has it).

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General Board / Re: Answers to all newbie questions
« on: May 02, 2005, 03:16:03 PM »
I noticed SL is online a lot for being a so-called busy law student.

Joe-

He/she is a wanna-be law student and female private part!

hth

A -10 female private part! :D


Ok, what is up with all the newbie bashing?

Andrew created this part of LSD to be a forum for law students. A forum to ask questions about topics that we may be having trouble with, to post success stories, to vent about things we dislike about law school, and to socialize with other law students.

This was never intended to be an extension of the pre-law forum. That is what it has turned out to be. As soon as pre-laws get accepted, they move right over here and begin bothering us with innane questions. Yes, some questions are easy to answer and important to incoming 1L's. However, the same questions are asked on a daily basis. Identical threads clog up the boards. And then when someone gives an opinion that the testy pre-laws don't like, they become hostile. This is what I am bashing.

There are plenty of forums on the pre-law side of the house for these pre-laws to go after they have been accepted and ask any questions they may have. And there are plenty of law students who browse those boards looking to lend a helping hand to them. However, this board is for LAW STUDENTS, not soon to be law student. There is already a forum for them on the pre-law side. My point is, the pre-laws need to go back where they belong. Stop flooding our board and driving out regulars away.

Though many offended pre-laws have been loud in their opposition to me, I have received even more private e-mails from other law students who lurk and post frequently on this site.

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Very helpful!

Thanks! ;)

I'm one of those suckers who buys everything - LEEWS, outlines, E&E, everything!  As I said on another thread, LEEWS didn't help because none of my exams were issue spotters.  I'm glad I have canned outlines only so that when I start work I have something to look at (although I did use some Gilberts outlines for first year exams to make sure I had the correct black lettr law).

What I'm glad I spent money on: Chirelstein on contracts (not sure how to spell his name).  E&E for most classes (and my advice is to read the sections in E&E at the time you cover it in class - you won't have time as exams approach).  Canned briefs - my favorite were West High Court Case Summaries.  It's still important to read cases your first year only because you have to learn how to do it - when you start working you'll have to be able to plow through cases finding the appropriate law, application, etc so you need to be familiar with it all (some kids at my school never read cases, only the briefs).

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I'm thinking of getting this book but wanted to hear what people thought about it.

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General Board / Re: Answers to all newbie questions
« on: May 02, 2005, 01:37:20 PM »
Carrie,
I don't think he/she is a law student because they had a lot of time on their hands to look up all your previous posts.  What a loser! :-\

That is f* hilarious!!  female private part University?? lol!!!!  I think she was rejected from there too though. ;D

Wait, I know what school you attend- female private part University, right?!  There ya go! You ARE in law school.   ;D

TO Joe:

You can tell me to leave this site. You can tell me that no one cares about my finals. You can be rude. You can call me a female private part, even though I am a guy. Yoiu can be aggressive and try to shout people down. All of that still does not change the fact that you are a loser. YOU GO TO THE WORST LAW SCHOOL IN AMERICA. For those of you who don't know, Joe is a 135 LSAT gettin', Cooley student, who was rejected by everyone else. Joe, just because you are bitter that you are the bottom of the barrel of the law school universe, don't put your frustrations off on me, because I am attending a REAL school.

TO Carrie:

From our responses to my posts, I assumed that I hit a little too close to home. So, I checked . . . and I was right. You are exactly the type of lemming that I was making fun of. Here's some highlights:

 “I know there was a thread on "how many hours do you study" but I'd like to know what everyone would advise for a first year law student?

For each class, can you advise?”

“How would you advise 1L students to "students" so to speak?

Would you recommend any books, etc., on study tactics, etc.?”

“I know this topic has been beaten to death.  But I'm trying really hard to decide what to get.
1)  What kind of laptop do you all have?
2)  Why did you choose this specific kind?
3)  What are the Pros about it?
4)  What are the Cons about it?
5)  What do you recommend for future 1L's?”

“What else do you all bring to class?  Does everyone bring (and use) their laptop to class to take notes?  Anything else?  Should I anticipate back problems? “

“I am interested in taping lectures.  What do you all think?

Also, what do you recommend?

And what do you do if the professor assigns you a seat to the back of the room or far from him?  Do you ask to be seated at the front so you can tape him?

Or there any special recorders that can tape from the back etc., and overcome noise made from your fellow students?”

“I have heard good things about it but what exactly is LEEWS?”

“Besides amazon & ebay, can you all recommend other sites I can buy cheap books (supplementals & books for law school)?”

To joshie,

I don't take criticism from a secretary. Do your job by getting me a coffee and answering my phones.


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General Board / Re: Answers to all newbie questions
« on: May 02, 2005, 01:09:00 PM »
I don't know but from what I've read here- it looks like no one likes you!  lol ::)

TO Joe:

You can tell me to leave this site. You can tell me that no one cares about my finals. You can be rude. You can call me a female private part, even though I am a guy. Yoiu can be aggressive and try to shout people down. All of that still does not change the fact that you are a loser. YOU GO TO THE WORST LAW SCHOOL IN AMERICA. For those of you who don't know, Joe is a 135 LSAT gettin', Cooley student, who was rejected by everyone else. Joe, just because you are bitter that you are the bottom of the barrel of the law school universe, don't put your frustrations off on me, because I am attending a REAL school.

TO Carrie:

From our responses to my posts, I assumed that I hit a little too close to home. So, I checked . . . and I was right. You are exactly the type of lemming that I was making fun of. Here's some highlights:

 “I know there was a thread on "how many hours do you study" but I'd like to know what everyone would advise for a first year law student?

For each class, can you advise?”

“How would you advise 1L students to "students" so to speak?

Would you recommend any books, etc., on study tactics, etc.?”

“I know this topic has been beaten to death.  But I'm trying really hard to decide what to get.
1)  What kind of laptop do you all have?
2)  Why did you choose this specific kind?
3)  What are the Pros about it?
4)  What are the Cons about it?
5)  What do you recommend for future 1L's?”

“What else do you all bring to class?  Does everyone bring (and use) their laptop to class to take notes?  Anything else?  Should I anticipate back problems? “

“I am interested in taping lectures.  What do you all think?

Also, what do you recommend?

And what do you do if the professor assigns you a seat to the back of the room or far from him?  Do you ask to be seated at the front so you can tape him?

Or there any special recorders that can tape from the back etc., and overcome noise made from your fellow students?”

“I have heard good things about it but what exactly is LEEWS?”

“Besides amazon & ebay, can you all recommend other sites I can buy cheap books (supplementals & books for law school)?”

To joshie,

I don't take criticism from a secretary. Do your job by getting me a coffee and answering my phones.


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General Board / Re: Where can I buy LEEWS at?
« on: May 02, 2005, 01:07:52 PM »
Sorry about that!  I was typing really fast! lol

$65 sounds good.  Was that for everything? the CD's?  manual, etc.?

Is online (www.leews.com, www.ebay.com and www.amazon.com) the only places?

Do the law book stores carry them?

Where all the white women at?

(Your preposition is blowing in the wind)

Buy it on Ebay... got mine for $65

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General Board / Where can I buy LEEWS at?
« on: May 02, 2005, 12:10:56 PM »
Is online (www.leews.com, www.ebay.com and www.amazon.com) the only places?

Do the law book stores carry them?

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