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Anyone else know they are attending Seton Hall PT (evening) in the fall?  Let's chat!

im probably going there, already sent in my deposit

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Wait List / Re: Hofstra Waitlist
« on: April 03, 2006, 12:30:28 AM »
haha I love the hate.  ;D

they are such LSAT whores.  I was right in the median for their LSAT and had a high GPA, with outstanding work esperience, yet they completely overlooked everything (while other schools did not).

Well, just like they looked at my numbers and waitlisted me, Im going to reject them because their numbers slipped.

I dont want a TTT anyway

yes, i'm mad at them  ;D

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actually it moved up 13 spots...

i'm just pointing out that it's a stupid system

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Wait List / Re: Hofstra Waitlist
« on: April 01, 2006, 03:08:14 PM »
Not surprised, nor that disappointed. I figure I have a couple other better offers in hand, thinking about a withdraw, but the knowledge to just see if I could have made it or not, is all thatís keeping me form the withdraw, what do you guys think?

i was waitlisted there but im prbably gonna withdraw since i have a better school

also they are officialy a TTT now

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Law School Rankings / U.S. News Report's rankings are 40% worthless...
« on: April 01, 2006, 11:21:31 AM »
Seriously look at their criteria:

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Quality Assessment (weighted by .40)
Peer Assessment Score (.25)
In the fall of 2005, law school deans, deans of academic affairs, the chair of faculty appointments, and the most recently tenured faculty members were asked to rate programs on a scale from "marginal" (1) to "outstanding" (5). Those individuals who did not know enough about a school to evaluate it fairly were asked to mark "don't know." A school's score is the average of all the respondents who rated it. Responses of "don't know" counted neither for nor against a school. About 67 percent of those surveyed responded.


Assessment Score by Lawyers/Judges (.15)
In the fall of 2005, legal professionals, including the hiring partners of law firms, state attorneys general, and selected federal and state judges, were asked to rate programs on a scale from "marginal" (1) to "outstanding" (5). Those individuals who did not know enough about a school to evaluate it fairly were asked to mark "don't know." A school's score is the average of all the respondents who rated it. Responses of "don't know" counted neither for nor against a school. About 26 percent of those surveyed responded.


Selectivity (weighted by .25)
Median LSAT Scores (.125)
The median of the scores on the Law School Admissions Test of the 2005 entering class of the full-time J.D. program.


Median Undergrad GPA (.10)
The median of the undergraduate grade point average of the 2005 entering class of the full-time J.D. program.


Acceptance Rate (.025)
The proportion of applicants to the full-time program who were accepted for entry into the 2005 entering class.


Placement Success (weighted by .20)
Employment Rates for Graduates
The employment rates for 2004 graduating class. Graduates who are working or pursuing graduate degrees are considered employed. Those graduates not seeking jobs are excluded. Employment rates are measure at graduation (.04) and nine months after graduation (.14). For the nine-month employment rate, 25 percent of those whose status is unknown are counted as employed.


Bar Passage Rate (.02)
The ratio of the school's bar passage rate of the 2004 graduating class to that jurisdiction's overall state bar passage rate for first-time test takers in summer 2004 and winter 2005. The jurisdiction listed is the state where the largest number of 2004 graduates took the state bar exam.


Faculty Resources (weighted by .15)
Expenditures Per Student

The average expenditures per student for the 2004 and 2005 fiscal years. The average instruction, library, and supporting services (.0975) are measured, as are all other items, including financial aid (.015).


Student/Faculty Ratio (.03)

The ratio of students to faculty members for the fall 2005 class, using the American Bar Association definition.


Library Resources (.0075)

The total number of volumes and titles in the school's law library at the end of the 2005 fiscal year.

See how 40% of the damn rankings are simply what others think of the school?  Bar passage rates and employment statistics are collectively given only half of that.

Unfortunately though, they have a monopoly on the market of rankings so they can pretty much do whatever they want, and people (including lawyers and future lawyers who should be more skeptical of things like this) take these rankings for 100% accuracy and truth

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Law School Rankings / Re: Link to 2007 Rankings
« on: March 28, 2006, 04:17:19 PM »
looks legit

nice find


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rank of seton hall and st. johns??

wheres the T2?

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my answer as to "why" put down more than 1 deposit -
I am only going to be able to visit 1 school before the Apr 15th deadline.  I have a couple of visits planned in late April and I am worried about making a decision before seeing the schools.

makes sense in that case

i would sasy if possible, visit all the schools you can before the deposit deadlines and make a decision, especially if you are on the fence with 3 or more schools

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i have wondered the exact same thing. what is your obligation to a school once u have u have put down a seat deposit?

From what I understand, (for most law schools) you are under no obligation to attend the school. But the seat deposit is lost if you decide not to attend (ie nonrefundable) but I think it goes towards tuition if you do attend.

Anyone know if this is the case?

yes

but some schools will refund parts of your deposit depending on school

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i have wondered the exact same thing. what is your obligation to a school once u have u have put down a seat deposit?
nothing...it just holds your seat...if you change your mind the keep the deposit (or refund part of it...depending on school)

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