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LSAT horror stories / Re: Sleep
« on: August 10, 2005, 03:05:53 PM »
I stayed up all night the night before in June. Got out of bed around 8:30 or 9 AM and had fallen asleep for maybe an hour or less at best. Said a lot of prayers, drank an energy drink, ate a sandwich, and went off to take the test. Prayed so hard on the way to the test I started crying (?).

Ended up getting a 166, which was the best score I had ever gotten on an LSAT.

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Recommendations / Re: Over the top?
« on: August 10, 2005, 02:29:40 PM »
Quote from: verbal213 on August 10, 2005, 11:54:05 AM
Quote from: loveless on August 10, 2005, 10:37:59 AM
Quote from: verbal213 on August 10, 2005, 10:24:24 AM
I had one that went on for 2 pages and concluded with me being in the top 5% of students he has had in his 25 years of teaching at 3 different universities.  I didn't think that was over the top, and I think you'll be fine although that last sentence is odd.  But I think it's poor form to ask someone to change their LOR and it could backfire.

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Well, he sent it to me and said "send any comments on things you would like changed/corrected, etc." I know the guy really well, he'd be okay with it.

In that case, yeah cut that last part.  Out of curiosity, what's the deal with the "commitment to ethics" part?

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I wrote a pretty passionate thesis on manipulative adveritising/predatory use of logos that got nominated for an award at my university. I also was quite outspoken about certain issues in class to the point that I challenged a lot of my prof's personal beliefs.

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Recommendations / Re: Over the top?
« on: August 10, 2005, 10:37:59 AM »
Quote from: verbal213 on August 10, 2005, 10:24:24 AM
I had one that went on for 2 pages and concluded with me being in the top 5% of students he has had in his 25 years of teaching at 3 different universities.  I didn't think that was over the top, and I think you'll be fine although that last sentence is odd.  But I think it's poor form to ask someone to change their LOR and it could backfire.

verb

Well, he sent it to me and said "send any comments on things you would like changed/corrected, etc." I know the guy really well, he'd be okay with it.

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Recommendations / Re: Over the top?
« on: August 10, 2005, 10:14:17 AM »
Quote from: Bonkers, Jr. on August 10, 2005, 09:37:20 AM
I don't know if it's over the top, it is a little bit strange, or maybe the word is smart-ass. Maybe it's an attempt at humor that falls flat.

I am assuming he let you read the whole letter... Any chance you could take it to him and say, "This last part embarrasses me, it really puts me on the spot. I don't want them thinking I have to live up to that. Can we take it out?"

Unfortunately, I'm just a lowly 3.9/166 dude.

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Recommendations / Re: Over the top?
« on: August 10, 2005, 10:13:17 AM »
Thanks for the advice, I'll figure out where to go from here.

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Recommendations / Over the top?
« on: August 10, 2005, 09:15:24 AM »
I had this prof that liked me a lot. Naturally I asked him to write me a LOR. It said a lot, including (in different words of course) "his analytical skills are better than mine," "I've only seen this commitment to ethics in one under student in my 12 year career," "he's the first person I've passionately recommended as a great candidate in 12 years", and "I'm sure he'll be a top 3 candidate at your school, be editor of your law review, and graduate magna cum laude in a few years."

Is this a bit much? Will Ad Comms think it is B.S.? I didn't write the letter, so it was the prof's word, not mine. Just seems a bit over the top perhaps?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Chances (Yes, another one!)
« on: August 09, 2005, 06:39:48 PM »
Quote from: 3ML on August 09, 2005, 06:38:52 PM
You might be able to do better than Duke/Michigan/G'town if you cast a wider net in the T14, but it basically looks good.

My first choice is Duke, so I'd be happy if I got in there.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Chances (Yes, another one!)
« on: August 09, 2005, 06:17:06 PM »
Quote from: DodgerLaw on August 09, 2005, 06:01:43 PM
Looks good to me. I just don't understand why you're applying ot DePaul and Wayne State. I guess it's a good idea to have a supersafety.

Wayne's close, and it would be nice to live in Chicago and not have to pay much. My chances of going to either are quite slim.

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Where should I go next fall? / Chances -- 3.85(3.97)/166
« on: August 09, 2005, 05:57:22 PM »
Hey, I'm new to the boards. Just spent the weekend touring schools and thus law school is consuming my mind. Here are my stats:

GPA: 3.85ish
LSAT: 166
School: University of Michigan AA, but transferred from Oakland University in MI. Since transferring, I've had a 3.97 at UMICH (thus, strong upward trend since Freshman year)
Degree: Poli Sci
Gender: Male
Economic Disadvantage: No
State of Residence: Michigan
Work history: Worked 25+ hrs a week while attending OU, no work while at UMICH but was a summer intern for contract lawyers at a large corporation
Awards: University honors (UMICH), writing awards, OU Dean's List (all semesters attended)
Extracurriculars: Phi Alpha Delta UMICH, Service Chair, Rush Committee; Michigan Daily non-staff arts writer; College Republicans; Campus Crusade Small Groups member; member of a rock band which has recorded and released music on a NYC-based label and toured in the East Coast (;D)

Dream schools: Duke (will apply early admit), U of Michigan, Georgetown
More realistic: BU, Fordham, USC, George Washington U, BC, Washington U (St. Louis)
Should be easy: American U, DePaul, Wayne State U

Thoughts?

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