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General Board / Re: What do you use your laptop for?
« on: April 27, 2005, 01:30:14 PM »
I can really only speak for Dell and Panasonic b/c I've owned a Dell, and before that, a Panasonic Toughbook.

I was really impressed with my panasonic.  I felt like my Dell wasn't made particularly well, though.  It's an okay laptop to leave at home, but not durable enough for everyday travel. 

Pointless Arguments / Re: Who here actually likes the law?
« on: April 23, 2005, 01:51:47 PM »

I didn't vote for bush and either have my friends who're in law school.  And I'm still their friend.  And they haven't gone nuts like you describe.

Just because you can't handle law school doesn't mean everybody goes off the deep end.

You might need some therapy buddy.

General Board / Re: What do you use your laptop for?
« on: April 22, 2005, 05:10:37 PM »
A few things --

I'm going to wait until just before school (mid-August or so) to buy a laptop.  That way I'll get more technology for less money.  And even now technology is moving really really fast with laptops.

Pitt has discounts on laptops.  The law school has an IBM, a Sony, a Toshiba, and an HP/Compaq last year.  And you can get discounts through the University of Pittsburgh for Dells, Gateways, and Apples. 

I do believe you can now use pitt's exam software on apples, but you may want to check on it before you get a laptop.

Last, I wasn't quite sure about whether I'd use a laptop for notes.  Until I did a little experiment to see how my typing speed compared to my handwriting speed.  Quite nearly twice as fast.  I was surprised. 

Pittsburgh / Re: Getting state residency while in school
« on: April 19, 2005, 10:06:38 AM »
Well, I know in Michigan it's really difficult to get in-state tuition.  In fact, I have a friend who followed all of the rules to the letter to get residency for the University of Michigan as an undergrad.  He worked in Michigan for over a year, he registered to vote, changed his licence, paid state income taxes, got utilities in his name -- did everything.  And he still was denied with no reason given. 

He appealed though and he was given residency on appeal.  And I've heard of more than just my friend having a similar experience at the U of Mich.  It's like they just deny everybody who's even borderline and see if they appeal. 

My point is that if you aren't given residency and you think you've fufilled the requirements, you should appeal.

Pointless Arguments / Re: Illegal Immigration
« on: April 16, 2005, 10:46:28 PM »
I'm hesitant to even reply to your post.  Those who you only will refer to as "illegals" are just people.  They're people who're struggling so much in life that they've risked their lives to come to a totally strange country where they don't even speak the language and where they aren't wanted.  And they do it b/c they and their families are suffering more than they can bear.

And you expect them to feel guilty? 

What gives you the right?  You're lucky to have been born in America.  You're lucky that your ancestors had the technology to kick their ancestors out of the country, and to enslave other people to make this country rich.

And you think you have the right to demand that they feel guilty? 

It's this kind of mean spirited selfishness that I just can't take.  I, for one, will not protect myself at someone else's expense.  I won't live in luxury when another person is inprisoned in a state of poverty.  If you will, fine.  But I sure as hell hope there's a god that puts you on trial for it someday b/c it is a true crime.

Pointless Arguments / Re: Illegal Immigration
« on: April 15, 2005, 09:31:58 AM »

If wolves made all the laws, the rabbits wouldn't be extinct, they'd be serving the wolves. 


General Board / Re: Need Advice...
« on: April 14, 2005, 01:56:24 AM »
Well, Princeton certainly isn't strictly an undergraduate school.  But it limits grad programs to academic PhD programs, and so it doesn't offer professional programs -- business, medicine, law.

Pointless Arguments / Re: Illegal Immigration
« on: April 14, 2005, 12:32:57 AM »
"...Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

Part of the poem written by Emma Lazarus, a Jewish American poet, and it's carved into the pedestal for the statue of liberty.  The French gave the United States the statue, and the poem was our addition.  The poem was the art that we, as a nation, selected to represent us when we erected the symbol of our freedom, the symbol for our country.

To the previous poster who wrote:

Legal immigrants (my grandparents and father, for example)...

I can only respond that, in some sense, the only truly "legal" immigrants to the United States were those brought over against their will (African Americans).  Because we've conveniently forgotten that Europeans didn't "discover" America.  We stole it.  Now we've not only stolen it, but we take the position that we have the right to say who will come and who will go.  That's the height of arrogance.  Most poor Mexican citizens have a substantial amount of Native American blood.  And we think we have the right to say to them that they don't have a right to living in the regions that were stolen from them? 

And to say that "illegals" don't contribute to our society is flat-out wrong.  They do, in fact, pay taxes.  They pay income taxes, sales tax, and they help support our social security system.  The notion that illegal immigrants are paid under the table is usually wrong.  Normally they have some sort of fake documentation to get jobs in places like meat packing plants, restaurants, etc.  Or they do things like migrant work.  But in those cases they do in fact pay social security and income taxes.  And, of course, they buy American products and pay sales taxes.

The biggest problem, though, that I have with the "my grandfather came here legally" argument is that nobody faces the fact that eighty years ago in America -- or a hundred or a two hundred years ago -- there wasn't really such a thing as "illegal immigration."  It would only be illegal, for instance, if you had some sort of serious illness that would prove to be a danger.  Otherwise we pretty much stuck to our setiment that we have on our statue of liberty:

"...Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

This is a beautiful idea.  It's beautiful that were saying that America is not just for those trying to protect their wealth or positions.  We're saying that America is a place for people who're suffering poverty and oppression.  We're saying that America is for the "masses" who don't fit other places.  That America is an open door for a new start. 

But we've lost this.  And I think it's one of the greatest threats to America.

Instead of calling people, "illegal" or "legal," how about we just try to keep track of people coming into the country.  That's what ellis island was for, and we can do it again.  Do you really think people would sneak through the dessert if we really let them in legally -- if we stuck to what is written on our statue of liberty?

But we won't do that.  We're too concerned with what we have, with protecting our position in the world and protecting our wealth.  We'd rather see others suffer to serve ourselves.   

I think it's interesting that some (not all) of the pre-law folks come to this board looking for advice and then completely disregard what actual law students have to say. 

You're so right.  It's funny that student after student can say the same thing, but all of us future 1L's just ignore it.  Anyhow, I definately am listening to what you have to say. 

You know, for all that people talk about reading books about law schools and trying to figure out the "secrets" of doing well, not many people talk about just showing up and doing what the professor advises.  But the professors actually do want students to succeed -- to become good lawyers -- don't they?  Would it be that crazy just to listen to them, instead of listening to something you bought at your local Borders?

It might be easier to keep believing in fighting for freedom than fighting for an A in torts   :D

Seriously though.  It'll be interesting to have you at Pitt.  I never really experienced any "older" students in UG (went to U.Michigan).  So even though you're not exactly elderly, you're going to add a lot with your experiences.  And of course the military experience is just really cool to have in a law class. 

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