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Current Law Students / Re: Done With Property!
« on: December 14, 2004, 06:45:31 PM »
Hey Sands,

I agree with everyone else, the fact that you knew that you did not have time to address everything proves that you knew your stuff.  A few 2Ls told me that you should never walk out of an exam thinking that you covered everything.  I'm sure that you did great.

I'm dreading my Property Exam which is on Friday.  My professor has written a Casebook on Wills, Trusts and Future Interests so I am NOT looking forward to the FI fact pattern that he has created for the exam.

Current Law Students / TORTS EXAM = RIDICULOUS
« on: December 14, 2004, 06:07:26 PM »
In my entire life I have never felt defeated.  I’ve even lost at track meets and never felt defeated b/c I gave my all…but on my Torts Exam today, I left feeling as though I had been defeated and I gave my very best!!!

That was the craziest exam that I have ever encountered (and probably ever will encounter) in my life!  First of all, there were 50 multiple choice that were not too bad, but some would go into this insane fact pattern with all of these people doing all of these things and then the question would say, “what response is most likely true?  A) Shavell would say that X should not recover b/c… b) Grady would say that so and so… c) Posner would say that since the tort law crisis Y should blah blah blah”  Thankfully, I made a THEORY OUTLINE as well!

Another thing, we did not even have a fact pattern for an essay!!!  We were given a 4 line article from a news source and had to write about it and then we could choose to write on 1 of the other 2 essays.  One was on X and Y’s debate (forgot their names) on the Last Clear Chance Doctrine and the other was on the Comparative Negligence System.

I did my best…

Current Law Students / Re: *** CONTRACTS WAS TODAY ***
« on: December 13, 2004, 11:14:03 AM »
Were your tests open or closed book?

Contracts: Casebook, outline, notes on laptop...anything except commerical outlines or the internet
Crim Law: Same as contracts
Torts: Casebook, your own outline
Property: Casebook, handouts from him

I cannot wait to get the last two over with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Current Law Students / Re: *** CONTRACTS WAS TODAY ***
« on: December 12, 2004, 04:31:59 PM »
Hey everyone!
I had Crim on Friday...2 down, 2 to go!

I have Torts on Tues and Property on Fri. 

Our Torts is about 70% Mult Choice...

Property is the only exam that we HAVE to hand write!  We'll see how that goes!

Hang in there everyone...we're almost to the finish line!!!

Current Law Students / Re: Done and DONE!
« on: December 11, 2004, 12:08:02 PM »
Not me...I had my 2nd exam yesterday...2 down, 2 to go!

Nashville School of Law / Re: JJ at NSL
« on: December 07, 2004, 11:52:04 PM »
To be any more bored with my job, I would have to be dead or at least comatose.

Tomorrow I'm taking the day off to attend a bar association CLE seminar on the new Tennessee child support guidelines.  It's free for student members of TBA and I see a chance to meet and greet the gods (lawyers).  It might be a waste of a day off, but these days work seems less relevant everyday.

My team lead brought up a problem the users were having with a new release.  I gave her my opinion of the situation.  She said we had to research it first.  We 'researched' it for about 20 minutes and then she gave me her opinion.  She basically repeated what I told her in first place. 

When I compare work to the law, it seems down right sureal. 

The hardest part of law school is going to work every day.  :D

I can't even count the number of times that happened to me at my old job!  My team leader was dumb as hell and only got the position b/c someone had left and she was like 45 and had been there for 3 years.  I was brand new, 22 and fresh out of college so I guess they thought I c/n do it.  I came up w/new ideas, she stole them.  It got to the point where I stopped giving a damn b/c I knew is was going to law school.  Anyway, this chick was dumb and insecure.  She could never make a decision w/o going to the head boss.  One day I needed her to sign off on something quick and I just blurted out, "Can't you make a decision on your own for once?  I've got a dealer on the phone, I need to know NOW!"  You would have thought the world stopped but her dumb ass gave me an answer and you know what she did 20-30mins later?  She came up to me and said, "I checked w/[head boss] and she said that that was in fact ok."  Damn she was dumb.

Current Law Students / *** CONTRACTS WAS TODAY ***
« on: December 07, 2004, 07:46:54 PM »
Yay!  One down, three to go!

Current Law Students / Re: Do u get called on once or more than once???
« on: December 07, 2004, 07:44:12 PM »
I think I've been called on the most in Crim, just b/c the professor is like that with everybody. 

My property professor is very random and when she calls on you, she stays on you for the entire day.  If she gets you into a ping-pong situation and you don't know the answer she'll wait on YOU and will tell everybody else to put their hands down.  so needless to say, I stayed prepared for property throughout the semester.

K never called on anybody, thus I learned the least in that class.

Torts - he keeps it pretty active so usually there are a lot of hands to any question he asks.

Take my first law school exam (K) thursday so tell you how it went on friday...

Contracts: Twice and he stayed on me the whole time.

Torts: TOO many times to name.  Sometimes she'd just be talking, "The blah blah blah blah...what do you think Whitney?" 

Crim: I was 1 of 10 people called on throughout the semester.

Property: 3 times and they were very short questions.  A "co-counsel" question and a FI problem.

Current Law Students / Re: Top 25% entering LSAT = Top 25% 1L grades?
« on: December 07, 2004, 01:38:45 PM »
I asked my professors (one graduated from USC, one from Penn, and one from Standford) this question and a few others, and they pretty much said the same thing. 

They said:
1)  the LSAT does not correlate with the school grades as much, but more with the bar exam success.
2)  the smartest people in law school (if you are saying that the smartest people are the high LSAT people) are not the ones that get the best grades. The ones that get the best grades are the ones that can organize and get their thoughts on paper the fastest.  Of course, if you got a high LSAT score and you can do these also, you will be in the top 25%.

In my first torts quarter exam, many people that got full rides (very high LSATs) ended up in the bottom 15% of our class. It seemed like most people that scored top 15%, above 85% or higher, had middle of the road LSATs. 

Me personally, I got above the 75% LSAT score (but not that high, since I didn't get a full ride), but still got middle of the road, 79% on my first exam.

I agree ZEMOG.

However, my TORTS prof is such a peach.  Why?  b/c the majority of our exam is multiple choice (only 1, maybe 2 essays) and she said that she wrote the mult choice questions in a way that most people will fall into 6 or 7 of her traps -- she expects us to get 6-7 wrong!  I wonder how many there are!!!!  She said that when she takes her own exam she falls into 2 of the traps and misses two of her own questions!  she also said that she likes to grade our mult choice responses and compare them to our LSAT score b/c she has a spreadsheet set up where she already knows whether you will get the question right based on your LSAT score.  I swear...why do some profs do this to us?!??!!?

Current Law Students / Re: "Errors" in Exam Questions
« on: December 07, 2004, 01:26:52 PM »
My K prof handed out a series of practice questions for his exam.  One of the questions contained a possible error that did not render the question inanswerable but completely changed the rationale.  He say's that it was an "obvious" error, and that I should have indicated as much in my answer.

d**mn.  While I think he's wrong, he's the prof, so as the kids say nowadays, "Whevs."

Have any of your professors indicated what you should do if you encounter an error, be it possible or obvious?

I honestly think that your prof was lying.  Most prof don't put errors in their exams.  All of my profs say that if, and they stressed IF you think there is an error, bring it up.  I bet your prof was embarrassed that you found an error so he made that reply.  If I were you, I wouldn't worry about finding errors on your exam along with issue spotting and analysis...that's just ridiculous.

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