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Current Law Students / Re: 0-L here, is recording lectures taboo?
« on: December 09, 2005, 03:01:25 PM »
I think that if you have a long commute or work out at the gym or some similar situation, and just want to refresh the material in your head, then I think it would be a good idea.

Current Law Students / Re: Civ Pro Multiple Choice question
« on: November 27, 2005, 07:52:26 PM »
jimmyjohn, you were correct, the answer was C. 

And again, thanks everyone for all the help.

Current Law Students / Re: Civ Pro Multiple Choice question
« on: November 23, 2005, 10:33:39 PM »
Thanks everyone for your help and analysis.

Just so I am understanding the very specific part about the filing...Diversity only counts at the time of filing right???? 

Because before the suit of 100k and counterclaim, Laura was in Wa. and Jenna was in Texas. There would still be valid diversity.  Then afterwards, George moves to dismiss because of Rule 19, and then it states Laura and Jenna were both in Texas.

So, it could not be D because we are only looking at the time when Laura was in Wa. and Jenna was in Texas, NOT when Laura and Jenna were both in Texas.

Did I get this reasoning correct?

Current Law Students / Civ Pro Multiple Choice question
« on: November 23, 2005, 12:25:18 PM »
I need help with this question below. I do not have the answer from the prof. 
_____________________________ _____________________________ _____________________________ _

George and Laura have joint ownership of a house in Texas.  Laura's daughter, Jenna, by a previous marriage, moved into the house after George and Laura moved to Washington.  George has filed suit to evict Jenna and for $100,000 in back rent.  Jenna has filed a counterclaim alleging that she now has sole ownership of the house because Laura secretly gave her a deed.  George moves to dismiss Jenna's counterclaim for failure to join a FRCP Rule 19 (necessary & indispensable) party, Laura.  George is now a citizen of Washington and Jenna and Laura are citizens of Texas.  The case has been filed in federal court, based solely on diversity.

A.  The judge will dismiss the suit because you should never sue your mother.

B.  Laura can be joined because this is a cross-claim and is a claim by a party not arising out of the same transaction or occurrence.

C.  Laura need not be joined.

D.  Laura cannot be joined because it would destroy diversity and thus the counterclaim must be dismissed.

E.  Although Laura should be joined, she is only a necessary, not an indispensable party.
_____________________________ _____________________________ _____________________________ _

I thought the answer should be D, but at the time the suit was filed, it would not destroy diversity and I thought that's when diversity counts, not after the filing.  So I'm not sure if the sentence "George is now a citizen of Washington and Jenna and Laura are citizens of Texas" is to throw me off or the prof messed up and should have put that before the filing.  I also thought Laura should be joined because she's co-owner but I'm not sure. 

Any help and explanation is appreciated.

Current Law Students / Re: Full Time or Evening?
« on: November 11, 2005, 10:10:04 PM »
I am a 2L PT evening student working 40 hours full time and 8 hours volunteering in legal field somewhere else.  I am also older than you.  Here's my take. 

1)stability and streaming income.  Possibility of no loans. Provide for family. 
2)Backup just in case the legal profession is not for you or after you graduate, if you can't find a job, you have a backup. 
3)If you want to stay with your current firm and just transfer to their legal department, or move up in management. 

1)It's going to be hard as hell to do well because
     a)  Working 40+ hours at a job where I assume you are
         fairly successful at and thus demanding of you,
         and then going to school M-Th 6:30-9:30, and
         having to possibility deal with family, something
         is going to give.  For me, stability of work is
         essential in providing for my family, so that is
         my priority.  There are many nights where I can't
         go to class or have to go on a business trip. 
     b)  You are competing against other students in fairly
         different situations.  FT students are regulated by
         the ABA for restriction of working hours but PT
         does not have that.  So what I mean is, you can
         have people in your class who don't work at all,
         giving them 40+ hours (when you are working) of
         more studying time.  I'm not saying it's unfair,
         i'm just letting you know it's going to be hard to
         top them. 

2)Hard to find an internship/externship which can accomodate 40+ hours of work.  I was lucky to find one that let's me volunteer 8 hours a week (2 4 hour shifts) and make up the rest of my 40+ hours of my full time job on the weekend. 

Most will want you to dedicate at least, at least, 16 hours a week, with back to back days. 

Tip:  Look for government type jobs or public interest. They are more understanding of your situation. 

3)Most meetings, speakers, etc. are scheduled during the day, during your working hours of 8-5.  You will miss alot of that.

That's all I can think of for the moment. 

Current Law Students / Re: credit hours weighing in on overall gpa?
« on: September 27, 2005, 09:25:03 AM »
Yes, the more credit hours or units for a class, the greater weight in your overall GPA.

Current Law Students / Re: Legal Dictionary?
« on: July 23, 2005, 10:18:12 AM »
There are an abundant number of online legal dictionaries and as you have mentioned, everything can be found on the internet.  That said, if you tend to read at a park or in your car, where there is no access to the internet, it may be inconvenient. 

I bought a blacks like everyone recommended but never really used it.  As small as the abridged version was, it was still 1/2 lb I didn't need to strain my back further with.

Yes, I work full time at a large company and been doing so for more than 10 years before I decided to attend PT evening law school.  What do you want to know?

Job Search / Re: Advice on Getting Summer 1L Work
« on: June 17, 2005, 12:08:17 PM »
I went "self directed."  I don't like relying on other poeple like the career services at my school because if they drop the ball, I'm going to be pissed.  I ended up just going to the websites of where I was interested and just emailed them a zip file consisting of my resume, writing sample, my first semester soft grades, and coverletter. 

I applied to several gov entities (no private firms since I want to work for gov eventually) including PD, DA, and AG office. Just so you know, the AG office wants 2Ls so you may not qualify, as I didn't.  I ended up chosing the DA over the PD's office, because I think it will look better on the resume and also I think they offer more networking opportunities.

Current Law Students / Re: Day vs. Evening Programs
« on: June 16, 2005, 06:56:11 PM »
I am older also and just finished my 1L as an evening part time student. 

If I was to do it all over again, I would still pick evening part time.  Not one regret.

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