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Online Law Schools / Re: Concord Law School
« on: April 23, 2005, 09:47:39 PM »
Law543,

You play some creative, albeit unimpressive, semantics games.  If you review my post, I never said that judges ALWAYS put periods at the end of sentences.  Although I suspect they do so the vast majority of the time, I am not so naive as to believe that NO legal opinion in existence contains such an omission.  Saying that a party "knows" to do something is very different from saying they "always" do that thing.  Please refrain from putting words in my mouth and basing your arguments on things I did not say.


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Online Law Schools / Re: Concord Law School
« on: April 23, 2005, 09:09:46 PM »
If I wasn't a law student, why would I post here? ::)  Good lawyers also don't make unwarranted assumptions.

Even long-winded judges know to put a period at the end of a sentence.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Concord Law School
« on: April 23, 2005, 05:53:05 PM »
When all else fails, resort to extremism that defies all logic and fails to effectively rebut the point made by your oponent.  ::) I suppose if people routinely scrutinize YOU while you sing in the shower, clean your bathroom, etc., then it would be advisable for you to act professionally. 

I am more inclined to let Cardozo get away with run-on sentences.  When you are a world-renowned legal theorist, run-on sentences are less likely to undercut your credibility.


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Online Law Schools / Re: Concord Law School
« on: April 23, 2005, 12:11:59 PM »
<<In a profession that judges you on your articulateness, it usually helps to develop a habit of using proper grammar and punctuation.>>

Well, if we were all using our posts here in the forum as potential job applications...your argument would have merit. As it is...we are mostly hear for leisure conversation and friendly exchanges. Besides...it's not as if the poster's punctuation was a major train wreck. He left off a simple punctuation in a post that was probably written in haste...it's primary purpose, to give valuable information in a short amount of time.

Snobbishly snubbing your nose at his grammer instead of being appreciative of the information he was trying to provide, albeit with a punctuation error...says more about you...than him.

Law543

The earlier you learn that as a lawyer you are judged in EVERYTHING you do, whether specifically related to law or not, the better off you will be.  The legal profession is one in which you are always scrutinized and your image depends greatly on your ability to act like a knowledgeable professional at all times.  A three-line run-on sentence doesn't exactly meet that goal.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Concord Law School
« on: April 22, 2005, 09:38:46 PM »
<<Yes, but will it teach you to use proper punctuation in your sentences?>>

Apparently, your school hasn't taught you manners. Perhaps you require all posts you read to demonstrate perfect punctuation...nobody else is bound by that requirement, however...nor does it indicate an inability to use proper punctuation or grammer.

The poster provided information that is likely to be useful to somebody. Who cares about the punctuation? (besides you, I mean)

Law543

In a profession that judges you on your articulateness, it usually helps to develop a habit of using proper grammar and punctuation.

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Current Law Students / Re: So who's attending Boalt this fall?
« on: April 22, 2005, 08:11:02 PM »


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I'm actually from the South, and I mostly went out in Atlanta, Miami, the Tampa Bay Area and NYC (when I went up to visit my sister).

I should say that maybe "deficient" wasn't the most appropriate term to use. I simply find that SF lacks that "zing" that I felt on the east coast. Certainly, many people may and do feel otherwise. ;)
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Interesting - I heard that Atlanta was the pits, but that's mostly from my snobby northeastern friends.  I hear that chicken friend steak is pretty awesome though. Then again, so are garlic fries at Giants games.. it's a toss up.

Atlanta is one of those places that you really have to know the town, or you WILL end up in the lamest places.  Most tourists don't know about the two best clubs in Atlanta (Visiion - www.visionatlanta.com and Compound www.compoundatl.com) and end up in dumpy bars in Midtown.  But, like you said, it IS pretty tough to please those snobby folks from the Northeast.

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Current Law Students / Re: So who's attending Boalt this fall?
« on: April 22, 2005, 03:44:18 PM »


If you want to go to a club, your best bet is the city.  That really goes for anything even remotely resembling fun and entertainment.  And even for that, SF is fairly deficient.


That's the first time I ever heard anyone say that SF is 'deficient' when it comes to entertainment. I lived there for a summer, & nothing could be further from the truth, I think.. let me guess, are you from NY or LA?



I'm actually from the South, and I mostly went out in Atlanta, Miami, the Tampa Bay Area and NYC (when I went up to visit my sister). 

I should say that maybe "deficient" wasn't the most appropriate term to use.  I simply find that SF lacks that "zing" that I felt on the east coast.  Certainly, many people may and do feel otherwise.   ;)

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Current Law Students / Re: So who's attending Boalt this fall?
« on: April 21, 2005, 10:48:00 PM »
Housing: learn early not to trust everything that the school tells you.  ;)  One piece of particularly bad advice you will get all throughout your first semester is that you should focus on finals and that you have just as good of a shot at getting a firm job if you wait and apply after finals are finished.  This is a blatant lie. 


Social life: For me, a major step down from my undergraduate institution.  (But then again, I don't think Berkeley has ever held the dubious honor of being the #1 party school in the nation.)  There are often kegs in the law school courtyard in the afternoon, and there's one major social event in the fall (Berkeley Law Foundation Benefit Auction) and one in the spring (Barrister's Ball).  Clubs hold quasi-social events now and then.  Firms have wine and cheese parties on campus fairly frequently, so there's plenty of opportunity to network early on. 

In terms of events unrelated to school, Berkeley seems a pretty dead place.  With the exception of a few VERY mediocre bars, the entire town shuts down at 9 pm. If you want to go to a club, your best bet is the city.  That really goes for anything even remotely resembling fun and entertainment.  And even for that, SF is fairly deficient.

The good news is that during 1L, you probably won't have much time to worry about that stuff.  So look on the bright side of things and work on your pick-up lines at Cafe Zeb. ;)

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Try Gilbert's and Seigel's.  Seigel's has a lot of practice questions.  You may also want to try Examples and Explanations. 

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Current Law Students / Re: The FL and GA Bar
« on: April 21, 2005, 06:52:05 PM »
I'm starting UF in the spring 06 and will graduate in spring of 08.  I want to practice in Atlanta but want the option of practicing in FL.  Going to UF I believe that challenging the FL bar as soon as possible would be wise.  How soon do most law students take the FL bar after graduation?  And is it feasible for me to be hired at a GA law firm and take the FL bar then take the GA bar?  I'm looking at Holland and Knight and they do have offices in Jacksonville and Atlanta and if hired, do you think that they would be more willing to allow me to challenge both?  I know that I'm a getting little ahead of myself but I am curious.  Oh also what do you think it would take to get into a law firm like Holland and Knight?

It's really too early to worrry about the Bar.  You will have a better idea of where you will practice after you complete your second summer.  Firms will extend permanent position offers to many of their 2L associates, and you will be able to get the details at that time.  They will tell you which Bar they want you to take and when.  For now, your best bet is to focus on 1L and make good grades. 

If you want to work for Holland Knight, you should make an effort to get a summer position there.  I don't believe they hire 1L summer associates, but you can double check on the NALP Employer Directory. [www.nalp.org] Since Holland Knight is a regional firm, they will definitely do OCIP at UF, so be certain to make arrangements for an interview at that time.  If you end up summering somewhere else and still want to apply to Holland Knight for am associate position, you can find the hiring criteria on that NALP website.  (Generally, it's very predictable: top 10-20% of the class, Moot Court and/or Law Review.)

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