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Fordham U / Re: Entering 1L
« on: June 23, 2005, 06:52:19 PM »
I've finally made a decision and I'll be starting at Fordham this fall. I'm hoping anyone can give me any advice whatsoever about the school or possibly about housing. Does Fordham offer an RA program where law students can live in undergrad housing as an RA ?? I know they did at my undergrad (BC) and I'm curious because I need any financial assistance I can get. I'm also wondering if someone can tell me whether the classes at Fordham are primarily taught in the socratic method or lecture style. I know certain schools have their own overall ideology and I'm curious to know what Fordham's is. If anyone has anything they can tell me that would be helpful, I would really appreciate it, or if anyone is going to Fordham this fall and would like to share concerns, I have many, and would love to talk.

I was an RA in undergrad and I wouldn't recommend that anyone take on that commitment while attending a professional degree program.  If you were getting a master's in excercise science, it would be a different story, but being an RA takes up a great deal of time.  And, depending on the requirements of the job at Fordham, you may go over the 20 hours that the ABA actually allows you to work.  Also, not all RA's get free housing.  We didn't -- we only got a check for about 400 bucks a month.

You should not rely on these so much that you neglect to do your reading.



it's not propoganda.  it's common sense.

A guy from our school did Wachtell his second summer.  He basically Am-Jur'ed every class.

I've revised my initial proposed set of supplements.  Here is the revised set:

Civ Pro
  Glannon E&E
  Crunch Time


Crim. Law
  Crunch Time


  Crunch Time

  E&E (sorry Ruskie   :-\ )
  Crunch Time

Some of the above is tentative, such as Delaney for Crim Law (recommended in PLSII) and the Crunch Time for Torts (I'm not sure if either of these are good).  And also - I'll probably get some canned briefs, like High Court Case Summaries (I'll figure this out later).

E&E's for the following subjects:

 Civ. Pro

Gilberts First Year Set
 Civil Procedure
 Criminal Law

Serisously, you are wasting your money on the Torts E&E.  It's very incomplete. 

Quite honestly, I think all of you pre-1L's are jumping the gun buying supplements this early.  I remember being you, being so eager to start I was ready to start plowing my way through casebooks by mid-June if I knew which ones to get.  Just like you guys, I loaded up on the supplements before starting school.  I read them a bit before classes started, but by the end of the semester I completely regretted the financial waste.  Some of the supplements lay untouched on my shelves -- they weren't very good for that particular subject.  I had to get other supplements to replace the wrong ones I had purchased.  Other supplements I found din't work for my learning style.  I will be passing them down to my unsuspecting friend who starts at Boalt this fall. 

It's very worthwhile to wait a couple of weeks, feel out the class, reidentify your learning style, and see if your professor suggests any supplements.  I don't think anyone who waits a week or two into classes to buy supplements in any way jeapordizes his chances of getting an A.

The Gilbert for K's is very good and includes everything you really need to know.  It's also quite thick.  Honestly, I doubt you will have time to use both that and E&E. 

Wait a second - a few posts above, you recommended E&E's for K's!  I'm confused.  Are you recommending Gilberts or E&E's for K's?

I bought both, and tried using both, but halfway through the semester figured out that using both supplements was a bit ambitious and was not the best use of my time.  Then I scrapped E & E and used Gilbert.

Basically, E&E is good for any class that is docrinally difficult.  Contracts (or Torts for that matter) isn't one of those classes.  You can get all you need to know right out of the Gilbert outline.

Current Law Students / Re: True Horror Story
« on: June 20, 2005, 09:04:49 PM »
not that bad! because in the law school i am attending we expect to be called at least once a week in every subject and 1/3 of our grade is from recitation. ;D

what is the name of this brutal hell?

E & E for Torts is awful!  Don't buy it. Gilbert should be sufficient for that.  If you must have some questions and answers, try your profs old exams or the CALI online lessons.

The Gilbert for K's is very good and includes everything you really need to know.  It's also quite thick.  Honestly, I doubt you will have time to use both that and E&E. 

Current Law Students / Re: copyright law as career choice
« on: June 13, 2005, 04:51:01 PM »
Thanks!  Sooo, if I wanted to do in house counsel at a publishing house, etc., would Tulane not be the best school to go to?? (I've been waitlisted at both Cardozo and Brooklyn Law and accepted at St. Johns and New York Law School - all in NYC where most publishing houses are).  Should I wait to go to one of these lower ranked schools?  I am pretty certain that I want to live and work in NYC. 

Also - is this whole copyright thing a risky bet?  Should I have a definite strong plan B?  As I've heard that copyright is a very competitive field...


Thanks again for any insight.  You guys rock!!

Going to school in California, preferably LA, would open a lot of doors for you right away, because you would be right in the midst of the industry.  However, if Tulane is the best school you got into, stick with it and be sure to focus on your grades.  Try to get a summer position in the industry - whether it be working for an in-house counsel somewhere or working for a transactional firm in LA.  Would you be better off if you went to USC? Probably.  Are you doomed to work at McD's for the rest of your life just because you have a Tulane degree?  Absolutely not!

i've heard some people use e-Legalines

Yes, some unfortunate souls do (Legalines are terrible for almost any subject!), but even they do not use them in lieu of the casebook.   Legalines and High Court Summaries (my personal favorite) are casebriefs, which means that they give quick case summaries of the most important cases.  You should not rely on these so much that you neglect to do your reading.  They are meant to be used as more of a supplement, to organize your thoughts before class.  Can you pass a class by using only casebriefs?  Sure, at some schools you can.  But I am almost willing to bet that very few people ace a class by reading case briefs alone.

Current Law Students / Re: copyright law as career choice
« on: June 10, 2005, 06:52:30 PM »
I disagree with some of the above posters.  You can get a job that would be mostly copyright oriented, especially if you became in-house counsel to a record label or publishing house.  Basically, you can avoid patents all together if you become a transactional attorney in the entertainment industry.

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