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Current Law Students / Re: So who's attending Boalt this fall?
« on: April 22, 2005, 03:44:18 PM »


If you want to go to a club, your best bet is the city.  That really goes for anything even remotely resembling fun and entertainment.  And even for that, SF is fairly deficient.


That's the first time I ever heard anyone say that SF is 'deficient' when it comes to entertainment. I lived there for a summer, & nothing could be further from the truth, I think.. let me guess, are you from NY or LA?



I'm actually from the South, and I mostly went out in Atlanta, Miami, the Tampa Bay Area and NYC (when I went up to visit my sister). 

I should say that maybe "deficient" wasn't the most appropriate term to use.  I simply find that SF lacks that "zing" that I felt on the east coast.  Certainly, many people may and do feel otherwise.   ;)

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Boalties, not "boalters."

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Current Law Students / Re: So who's attending Boalt this fall?
« on: April 21, 2005, 10:48:00 PM »
Housing: learn early not to trust everything that the school tells you.  ;)  One piece of particularly bad advice you will get all throughout your first semester is that you should focus on finals and that you have just as good of a shot at getting a firm job if you wait and apply after finals are finished.  This is a blatant lie. 


Social life: For me, a major step down from my undergraduate institution.  (But then again, I don't think Berkeley has ever held the dubious honor of being the #1 party school in the nation.)  There are often kegs in the law school courtyard in the afternoon, and there's one major social event in the fall (Berkeley Law Foundation Benefit Auction) and one in the spring (Barrister's Ball).  Clubs hold quasi-social events now and then.  Firms have wine and cheese parties on campus fairly frequently, so there's plenty of opportunity to network early on. 

In terms of events unrelated to school, Berkeley seems a pretty dead place.  With the exception of a few VERY mediocre bars, the entire town shuts down at 9 pm. If you want to go to a club, your best bet is the city.  That really goes for anything even remotely resembling fun and entertainment.  And even for that, SF is fairly deficient.

The good news is that during 1L, you probably won't have much time to worry about that stuff.  So look on the bright side of things and work on your pick-up lines at Cafe Zeb. ;)

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Try Gilbert's and Seigel's.  Seigel's has a lot of practice questions.  You may also want to try Examples and Explanations. 

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Current Law Students / Re: The FL and GA Bar
« on: April 21, 2005, 06:52:05 PM »
I'm starting UF in the spring 06 and will graduate in spring of 08.  I want to practice in Atlanta but want the option of practicing in FL.  Going to UF I believe that challenging the FL bar as soon as possible would be wise.  How soon do most law students take the FL bar after graduation?  And is it feasible for me to be hired at a GA law firm and take the FL bar then take the GA bar?  I'm looking at Holland and Knight and they do have offices in Jacksonville and Atlanta and if hired, do you think that they would be more willing to allow me to challenge both?  I know that I'm a getting little ahead of myself but I am curious.  Oh also what do you think it would take to get into a law firm like Holland and Knight?

It's really too early to worrry about the Bar.  You will have a better idea of where you will practice after you complete your second summer.  Firms will extend permanent position offers to many of their 2L associates, and you will be able to get the details at that time.  They will tell you which Bar they want you to take and when.  For now, your best bet is to focus on 1L and make good grades. 

If you want to work for Holland Knight, you should make an effort to get a summer position there.  I don't believe they hire 1L summer associates, but you can double check on the NALP Employer Directory. [www.nalp.org] Since Holland Knight is a regional firm, they will definitely do OCIP at UF, so be certain to make arrangements for an interview at that time.  If you end up summering somewhere else and still want to apply to Holland Knight for am associate position, you can find the hiring criteria on that NALP website.  (Generally, it's very predictable: top 10-20% of the class, Moot Court and/or Law Review.)

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Current Law Students / Re: So who's attending Boalt this fall?
« on: April 21, 2005, 02:16:28 PM »
I'm probably going to move early August.  I have to drive my car across the country... ugh!  Not sure yet where I'm going to be living... probably search for an off-campus 1-bedroom or efficiency.

I would NOT wait until August to look for a place to live.  If you do, expect to pay a ton of money for a place that is barely above the minimum standard of habitability.  Examples of my friends who waited until late summer to look for housing: one lives in a dining room (no kidding!) of a 2 bd apt. and pays 700 dollars; another buddy pays 1200 for a 300 sq. foot mother-in-law.  It would be well worth your while to take a trip to Berkeley in June or July to look at housing options and sign a lease to begin in August.  Before you go out, search the listings on www.craigslist.org to have some idea of typical accomodations, prices, etc.  Unless you are coming from NYC you will probably be shocked by the prices.  Berkeley is known for slumlording and sub-standard housing.  When I moved last year, a Berkeley native suggested that I out on "Berkeley goggles" when I look for a place to stay -- if it looks decent to a reasonable person, it is probably a phenomenal find for Berkeley.


I'm a bit nervous about the clique-ish-ness and gossip that everyone talks about.  But Berkeley sounds like it (hopfully) attracts a more diverse, unique type of student.  So hopefully it'll be a blast.  Personally, I'm ignoring these messageboards and am assuming that my fellow classmates are going to be fun, friendly, and cool :)

You are right on target with this one.  There are cliques everywhere, but I think they are probably less prevalent in a student body that is generally friendly, cooperative and laid-back.

Congrats on your acceptance!

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Job Search / Re: Where do you stand with your job search?
« on: April 18, 2005, 05:58:18 PM »
Just got hired as a research assistant.


I'm pretty happy, I must say.

What does that pay these days?

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Online Law Schools / Re: Concord Law School
« on: April 16, 2005, 01:53:52 AM »
If you graduate from a non aba jd i think you can still be admitted to st thomas, miami's llm program, the tax llm is online, this will let you into some states the best way to go is to go the the rules of the state you want to practice in, many for example once admitted then you can go to and take their bar exam



7. Requirements for admission -- Applicants admitted to the practice of law in another jurisdiction of the United States

Yes, but will it teach you to use proper punctuation in your sentences?

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Job Search / Re: Where do you stand with your job search?
« on: April 13, 2005, 06:54:09 PM »
I will be doing a judicial externship at municipal court this summer.

Yay! Congrats! ;D

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U of California - Hastings / Re: Hastings - A Very Competitive School
« on: April 12, 2005, 06:24:21 PM »
How much have you all heard or know first hand about hastings being a competitive school? I've heard things first hand from students that its cutthroat and then I've heard that it doesn't deserve that reputation at all. Moreover, it might be just me, but I have a feeling this school lacks much of a social life, due to its stand alone non-affiliation with an undergrad and due to the competitive nature of the school.

Berkeley would have been so much easier with its kumbaya grading approach, and the fact that employers want the dumbest laziest pricks at Berkeley over the smartest grads from any "lesser" law schools. Do I sound bitter? Well I am. 


Hastings is a great school with a solid reputation in the Bay Area.  It has a more competitive environment than both Stanford and Berkeley because it has to.  Hastings grads, as you adequately pointed out, usually line up behind Stanford and Boalt grads for jobs.  Hastings students are aware of this fact and realize that they have to graduate near the top of their class to be competitive in the Bay Area job market. 

I don't think it's fair to say that the people at the bottom of their class at Stanford and Boalt are dumb -- they just realize they can relax a bit more with fewer negative consequences.  And even if they take the path of relaxation through law school, they are still getting top notch training with oustanding faculty, research centers and clinics.

All that said, if you do well at Hastings, you can still count on good regional placement.  Several of my buddies who go there were able to secure fairly prestigious firm offers for the first summer -- a rarity at any school. 

There's no need to be bitter.  If you excel at Hastings, you can transfer up.  Many people do.

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