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Job Search / Re: Student Business Cards
« on: November 03, 2005, 10:45:37 AM »
MP: I agree that it is strange that I still check this board.  In my defense, I am still a student (LLM program).  Also, the founder of the website is a good friend, so I became accustomed to checking while I was in school and never stopped.  From my perspective I am able to see that alot of the advice that is being doled out by law students, while probably well intentioned, is more for the benefit of the advisors.  In other words, I think alot of folks use these boards to make themselves feel more secure in choices that they have made.  For example, I have seen threads where people say that you must bring a laptop to class.  This is simply not the case.  I knew plenty of folks who either took notes in a notebook or didn't take notes at all and did well.  Anyone who tells a curious student that they need a laptop either: (a) works for Best Buy or (b) bought a laptop and want to feel as though they made the "correct" decision, whatever that means.  I believe that this thread is similar. 

As to your second point, if you reread my posts, except for the last post, I think it is clear that my comments are based on my own experience.  If they came off as universal truths, I apologize; that was not my intention.

I thank you for taking the time to check in and give us some perspective "from the other side."  I think some law students and pre-laws would be much better served if they extracted their heads from their asses and took a little time to listen to someone with experience.  Although your experiences may not represent a universal truth, I think that those experiences are much closer to the truth than anything a law student defiantly (and ignorantly) believes.  Just my two cents.  Thanks again for being here.

Current Law Students / Re: Best Professor Lines This Year
« on: October 25, 2005, 04:38:01 PM »
These are from my legal writing prof from last year, but too good not to share:

When asked about which research system she recommends: "Well, Lexis is a little more intellectual, so you should probably stick to WestLaw."

When a group of students completed the wrong assignment and tried to play it off by joking about it: "You all are like the three stooges, but not quite as smart."

Job Search / Re: Declining Offers
« on: October 25, 2005, 03:05:37 PM »
let them know about that raging case of the clap that we all know you have

that'll probably do the trick for you

how exceptionally mature and witty of you! ::)

Job Search / Declining Offers
« on: October 25, 2005, 01:18:12 PM »
What's the best way? Letter, phone call, email?

If you are writing a letter, what format are you using?

God, I am really starting to hate this part of the process.

Job Search / Re: Do 2L grades matter after getting a SA offer?
« on: October 25, 2005, 12:37:11 PM »
My question is how important are 2L grades in determining if the firm you work at as a summer associate gives you an offer at the end of the summer?  Any stories of anyone not getting an offer after getting horrible 2L grades?

I had a senior associate at a top Atlanta firm bring this up during my callback. 

She laughed and said it was so funny, because the firm had never seen any of her grades beyond first year.  She said all they had on her in her file was the first year transcript and they never asked for anything else.

Current Law Students / Re: 1L Summer Clerkship
« on: October 02, 2005, 07:28:27 PM »
Although most law firms don't advertise it, pretty much ANY firm will take a 1L if they are impressed enough with the applicant's resume.

Which boils down to finding a way to let 'em know of as many stats about your brain and other parts of your body as possible ...

This is uncalled for.  If you think that it takes showing off your body to get a good law job, then you're as shallow and pathetic as the idiot who is going to hire you.

Job Search / Re: One more call-back interview question
« on: October 02, 2005, 06:56:29 PM »
It has now been 2-2 1/2 weeks since I had a bunch of screening interviews.  Any 2L's or 3L's out there do anything at this point...or have success with call-backs?  I still haven't heard from about half of the firms. Is a quick email to the OCI interviewer inappropriate just to reiterate my interest in a couple of these firms?

Did any third years get good news at this point of the wait?

I don't think it's time to worry yet, especially if you are interviewing with firms that are outside the region in which your law school is located.  Some firms will go to committee yet again before deciding on call-backs so that may be the hangup in your case.  On the other hand, if you have begun to get a ton of rejections, you should immediately meet with your career counselor and discuss an alternative strategy. 

Basically, it comes down to this: if no one from your school has heard anything from a firm yet, it's not time to worry.  If you know of classmates who have gotten callbacks from the firm you are waiting for, chances are you will be rejected.  It's just a matter of keeping up with what's going on with your classmates.

i realize that a lot of people don't like to talk to others about call-backs, for fear of having too few or too many, but there are ways besides face to face conversations to spread the news.  A classmate of mine has compiled a list of firms that have either given out callbacks or sent out rejections on his blog.  Peoople email him anonymously and he updates the list.  It really helps everyone see where they stand.

Current Law Students / Re: Call-back interview question
« on: September 22, 2005, 01:28:23 PM »
Are the questions more difficult?

absolutely not.  the callback lasts a longer amount of time, but the questions will never be "difficult."  indeed, i have not been asked a single substantive question on any of my callbacks.  basically, the interviewer will assess whether you are a good fit at your firm.  our CSO has provided us with sample evaluation forms, and some of the qualities evaluated include whether you are articulate, well groomed, enthusiastic, and will get along well in the firm.  I'm sure this is true at smaller firms.  You don't have to sell yourself, really.  That part is done.  ONce you get the callback, you've passed the grades hurdle.  You just have to express interest in the firm and act comfortably to the extent that the partners and associates would be happy to work with you professionally.  i've done about 15 callbacks so far, and have received quite a few offers just "being myself" and really expressing a solid interest in the firm.

callbacks and oci are a female dog.  i don't even remember what my ucc art. 2 casebook looks like.

Job Search / Callbacks
« on: September 19, 2005, 08:08:32 PM »
Let's hear it!

Job Search / Re: How are you wearing your hair for interviews?
« on: August 29, 2005, 05:57:58 PM »
Just curious as to how everyone is wearing their hair for interviews.  I know it is recommended to wear hair back, but is this a must?
As long as it is neat, it doesn't matter.

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