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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Law review! / Trial Ad team
« on: July 13, 2006, 09:15:39 PM »
It depends on what your goals are. Because you want to clerk for a judge, law review is the better choice. However, you seem to already know that.

For most people, a lot of things are more interesting than journal work. (However, this may not be true in my case. I have yet to find out.) Most people don't join a law journal because it's interesting; they do it because it looks good on a resume and it's good experience. (Although arguably knowing whether to capitalize the "S" in "see also" following a previous citation is not an essential skill for a lawyer.)

What do you want to do after clerking for a judge? If BigLaw or academia, I would say go for law review. (However, if you graded onto law review, then you may have sufficient access to these career options anyway. Law review could just be the icing on the cake.)

Book Sales and Trades / Re: A plethora of law study aids for sale
« on: June 20, 2006, 07:42:28 PM »
Update -- I got my GPA. Though I don't have my official class rank yet (comes out tomorrow), I'm looking at roughly top 15%.

Book Sales and Trades / Re: A plethora of law study aids for sale
« on: June 14, 2006, 10:28:40 AM »
I used most of them, some more than others.

Book Sales and Trades / Re: A plethora of law study aids for sale
« on: June 13, 2006, 09:22:52 PM »
Please Tell me your #1 in the class

I won't know until Thursday at the earliest. I doubt my class rank is that good. Last semester I was probably around top 35% or so but we weren't given an official rank.

P.S. Some of the books were given to me (e.g. BarBri book and books that were sent to me by accident when I ordered other used books) and some I was required to buy (e.g. casebooks, FRCP). Other books were just general reading before law school like "Acing Your First Year in Law School," and "1000 Days to the Bar..." Much of it was inexpensive, like the Gilbert's law dictionary ($9), the User's Guide to the Bluebook, and the Criminal Law BarChart ($5).

Book Sales and Trades / A plethora of law study aids for sale
« on: June 13, 2006, 07:59:58 PM »
NOTE: I changed my previous message because I've sold many of the items. I haven't changed the prices -- they are still low. Also, I am still requiring that you purchase OVER $30 WORTH OF ITEMS for me to do the transaction (because I still have too many items to keep going back and forth to the post office). However, there are no discounts now because I've already sold so many items (the point was to get rid of a bunch of them).

Here are the remaining items (which are going quickly) and prices (not including the cost of shipping):


   Emanuel’s (2003) (0735544670) – very good (no marks) ($8)
   Gilbert’s (2002) (14th edition) (0159007763) – very good (no marks) ($10)
   Examples and Explanations (2004) (3rd edition) (0735539693) –  good (marks on         
        maybe half the pages but in very good condition) ($14)
   Law School Legends CDs (2005) (0314160841) –  like new (flawless condition –
        comes with a 10-page Contracts handout/outline in a PDF file on a CD) ($41)

   Singer – Property Law casebook (3rd edition) (2002) (0735524920) –  good
        (highlighting/marks on maybe half the pages) ($7)

Civil Procedure
   Examples and Explanations (Glannon) (4th edition) (2001) (073551982X) –  (marks
        on about 2/3 of the pages, but otherwise in good condition) ($6)

   Gilbert’s (23rd edition) (2002) (0159007550) –  like new (marks on less than 5
        pages) ($8)
   Sum and Substance CDs (3rd edition) (2005) (031416331X) –  like new (excellent
        condition – 8.3 hours long) ($56)

Constitutional Law
   Emanuel’s – 2003 (21st edition) (0735540004) – like new (marks on less than 5
        pages) ($8)
   High Court keyed to Chemerinsky – 2002 (1st edition) (0314141677) – covers nearly
        every case that is in the new edition of the casebook – like new (marks on less
        than 1/6 of the pages) ($17)
   Sum and Substance CDs (Cheh) (6th edition) (2005) (0314160183) – like new (CD’s
        are in perfect condition – Cheh is great, and the CD’s are very up-to-date (2005)
        – there are 9 CD’s (11 hours) on these CD’s) ($47)

Criminal Law
   Dressler – Understanding Criminal Law (3rd edition) (2001) (0820550272) –  very
        good (marks on less than 1/10 of the pages) ($8)
   High Court keyed to Kaplan’s 5th edition casebook (2005) (0314161481) –  very
        good (light marks on maybe half the pages, but otherwise in excellent condition)
   Sum and Substance CDs (Dressler) (3rd edition) (0314261435) –  like new (perfect
        condition – Dressler is great) ($35)
   BarCharts Criminal Law (4 page, laminated, condensed outline) (2004) (1572226854)
        – brand new ($2)

Legal Research, Writing, and Analysis
   Plain English for Lawyers (4th edition) (2002) – Wydick (0890899940) – very good
        (marks on about half the pages) ($4)
   Sloan – Basic Legal Research (2nd edition) (2003) (0735527792) –  very good
        (marks/highlighting on less than 10 pages, but otherwise in great condition) ($2)

All Subjects/Miscellaneous
   1000 Days to the Bar, But the Practice of Law Begins Now (Dennis Tonsing)
        (0837737265) – (minor marks on maybe 1/3 of the pages, but otherwise in excellent
        condition) ($12)
   Black’s Law Dictionary (2nd POCKET edition) (0314257918) – brand new (flawless
        condition) ($20.50)

Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Best Canned Briefs
« on: June 12, 2006, 01:42:03 AM »
best quality = probably high court
best deal = romlaw (you get canned briefs for EVERY subject for like $40 or $50 total, whereas you would pay at least $20 per course otherwise times 5 or 6 courses in your first year)

p.s. ive never used legalines.

Interesting. But still, the Restatement is pretty representative of the common law, and most likely the cases you studied.

My contracts class was only about 10% Restatement, and like 5% UCC.  The rest was case law only.

It's really not that unusual.  My torts class also spent very, very little time discuss the restatement.

Restatements are good, for what they're worth. But because most (any??) states don't adopt it, they're not the be all end all of the subject.

Coxless --

You're a cool guy, but I don't understand how your Contracts professor could "all but ignore" the Restatement. The Restatement is the common law of Contracts, the rules and policies of the entire subject of Contracts. What did he do -- focus entirely on the UCC? That would make no sense because the UCC only deals with transactions in goods.


I went from a midwest T4 to a Top 30 this year.

I know nothing of Law Preview so I won't comment on that.

I did the CD version of LEEWS before my 1L (and again before 1st semester finals) and I feel that helped a great deal. Wentworth Miller (the creator) knows the law exam system inside and out. I've found that people ranging from T4 to Top-14 have benefited from this program.

I also tried the Planet Law School II prep program and found it to be a colossal waste of time. Reading the Examples and Explanations was a joke. For example: The Crim Law E&E is about 70/30 in regard to its focus on the common law and the model penal code, respectively. My crim law class was 90% model penal code. The contracts E&E was heavy on the restatement. My prof all but ignored the restatement.

There are three nuggets of advice I got that, after my 1L, I feel were the best:
1. Treat school like your job. Make everything else tertiary to your studies. Sometimes workdays are an easy 9-5 and you can relax that night. Other workdays are 12-15 hours. Put the time in. You can't be too prepared.
2. Practice the old exams. Work on how you outline your answers, how you phrase the law specific to the exams fact pattern, etc. Then go over the exams with your profs prior to the test. You'll learn invaluable information.
3. A corollary to #1, take time off. It's a marathon, not a sprint. You'll need some evenings, weekends away from school. A 24/7 mentality will just wear you out and impair your ability to succeed. Find a good outlet for your stress: alcohol, a sex buddy, exercise, etc.

Other than that, once school begins, don't waste your time thinking about transferring until you get your 1st semester grades. There are no pro-active steps you can take till 1st term marks are in and you are better focusing on the looking exam period.

Best of luck

3.35 GPA = top 5% at my school

The f**cking piece of *&^% cheap school of mine (obviously T4) sets the curve for mandatory classes at 2.7, but the overall first-year GPA is around 2.9. Never heard of a school where 3.0 puts you in the top 25%. 

I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say because that sentence was a bit hard to follow, but assuming I'm interpreting what you are saying correctly, my answer is "no." In fact, you are probably MORE likely to be miserable if you go into BIGLAW than if you do not.

Yea, you won't get a BIGLAW job, but you'll get something.

Wouldn't you regret that you would be a 'miserable lawyer' for the rest of your life in case you'll only be able to get 'something'?!

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