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Transferring / Re: Will Law Review Boost My Transfer Options\Chances?
« on: January 20, 2007, 03:00:31 PM »
it couldn't hurt. do it.

Transferring / Re: For those who transferred mid-T1 to Top 10....
« on: January 20, 2007, 03:00:09 PM »
Even if transferring is hard, if you don't get in is it possible to apply as a 1L and matriculate without advanced standing, ie, as a 1L? 

I'm not asking if this is advisable, just if it is possible.

no, this is not possible. why would it be? why would you want to do that anyway? you'd have wasted a year of your life and 1 year's tuition/fees. why not just wait a year and then apply to the top schools? don't be foolish/rash.

Transferring / Re: Should I transfer out?
« on: January 20, 2007, 02:58:36 PM »
I TOTALLY agree.  Outside of the practice of law, the name of your school doesn't matter at all

that's ridiculous. do you know which schools are the good b-schools? i do. bankers work hand in hand w/lawyers. you think they don't know which are the good law schools? banks look for people w/outstanding academic creds just like law firms. translation - this person should transfer.

Current Law Students / Re: general question about transferring
« on: January 20, 2007, 02:56:11 PM »
i think if you're in the top 10-15% you should be golden. good luck.

Current Law Students / Re: Hoping to Transfer -- need some help
« on: January 19, 2007, 09:39:59 AM »
I think the biggest problem you'll have is journal.  Odds are you won't get on one at your new school.  Most give the line that they have a transfer write on competition, but few, if any, actually get invitations.  Journal is an absolute necessity if you want to clerk after you graduate, so if that's something you're interested in, you should at least find out if there are journals where you can volunteer (I know UVA has some like this) so you have an option should you not write on.

1) This is not true. Sorry. I'd say about half my transfer friends are on journals; the other half don't care/didn't want to be and didn't participate in the competition.

2) I really don't think a journal matters that much in clerkship applications. Why would it? Because it shows you know how to cite-check? Big deal. You can learn that in a day. I think judges are most concerned with grades, writing ability, and personality. Think about it - if you were a judge, would you care whether or not an applicant was on some crappy secondary journal? I know I wouldn't.

Current Law Students / Re: Hoping to Transfer -- need some help
« on: January 18, 2007, 08:05:30 PM »
i think you should certainly transfer. i'd much, much rather be an average student at a top school than the #1 guy at tulane.

i personally transferred (t1 to nyu). i have a good friend who transferred here from tulane. there's another girl from tulane in my transfer class; as far as i know they were the only ones.

anyway, law is a prestige oriented (obsessed?) profession, and you will be much, much better off with a degree from a top law school. your degree stays with you for the rest of your life...would you rather be a columbia man (or an nyu man, or a university of chicago man, etc.) than a [insert school that nobody's ever heard of] man?

also, the quality of the education is certainly better at top schools. better profs, better students, etc.

do it. also, congrats on your 1st semester, that's great. keep up the good work.

(a final aside - journals are not important, and you'll have a chance to write on at your new school in any case.)

IMHO Law in a Flash blows. The hypos are poorly written and sometimes even wrong (or just unchallanging). The E&E hypos are generally very good, along with the explanations. I also like the CALI lessons as well.

Nutshells are OK, but again not really that great. I recommend the 'Concepts and Insights' series put out by Foundation Press. They are well written and lay out a conceptual framework that you can use as a lens to view the black-letter rules through. IMHO, is is MUCH easier to remember the rules when they are placed against a conceptual background, rather than when viewed as independent and only nominally connected.

Current Law Students / Re: PLS comments from current students please :o)
« on: January 23, 2005, 06:43:42 AM »
Well, I didn't use the PLS study method, but I generally do endorse it, and in fact am a member of the PLS Yahoo! group. Now, the obvious question is, 'How can you say it works if you haven't actually used it?'

Well, basically, I agree with PLS that there is very little instruction that goes on in law school. The fact of the matter is that law students pay exorbitant amounts of money to teach themselves the law. Yes, you WILL be teaching yourself the law/legal reasoning, so you may as well get used to it now. Personally, I used a combo of the PLS/LSC approach. What I did/do is read a hornbook and/or commercial outiline section before I do my casebook reading. IMHO, the Aspen E&E's are generally excellent for the first year courses, with the exception of Property (useless) and K's (OK, but not great). I do/did not outline, and generally cut class often (thought this depends on the course).

Why struggle through the material during the first couple of months? Do the PLS study method (if you have the time) and start off WAY ahead of your classmates. Sure, many of them will learn the material as well, but you can use the time you saved to do hypos/practice legal reasoning, actually go to class (this may or may not be helpful), do CALI lessons, and/or relax.

One piece of advice. If you DO use PLS, don't answer questions in class even though you know the answers. And, if you think/do know the answer, don't let your prof or your classmates try to mislead you. You'll see what I mean when you go to class.

I have yet to get all my grades, but so far I got an A- in Crim Law and am generally doing well in legal writing. Still waiting on torts, though...

Current Law Students / Re: Con. Law & Civil Procedure
« on: January 16, 2005, 10:39:58 AM »
Where do you go to school?

Current Law Students / Re: Did everyone pass your exams?
« on: January 07, 2005, 06:02:25 AM »

I felt the same way with my contracts exam.  I almost got into a car wreck on the drive home from the exam because i realized that I hadn't mentioned statute of frauds on the last hypo.  I was certain that I would not do well (meaning, get an A or A-).  I found out yesterday that I made an A and almost sh!t a brick!

Congrats. Good job.

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