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Choosing the Right Law School / Top Schools for Academic Placement?
« on: August 09, 2005, 12:36:01 PM »
Does anyone know what the top schools are for academic placement? A list of the top ten? It doesn't seem to be in the USNews rankings, and I'll be damned if I know where to find it.


My GPA is too low for Boalt anyways, but I've looked in to Michigan and fired them of an email. It actually looks like a perfect school for me, maybe the perfect school, but I need to see what they say about my email.

I'm borderline at T14 schools even if they do take my top LSAT with a 3.2 GPA. 3.2/170 might get me in somewhere...3.2/165.5, that's useless for T14.

Just curious...why are you so committed to going to a T14? I understand if you wanted to transfer out to a specific school for location or a specific program...or if it was your dream for years to go to Michigan...then I say go for it. But to look into transferring just so you can feel satisfied that you're going to one of the top 14 schools makes no real sense. I think you've read into a lot of the garbage that people spit out on this forum about prestige, starting salaries etc.

I mentioned several times on this thread that I won't to teach law at a later date. I come from a family of academics and it's something I have wanted to do for a long time. I agonized for ages between law and academia, this is a way to get the best of both worlds. Please try to read what I've posted before you go on a rant about my intentions.

Beyond that nonsense, I am applying ED to Michigan. I am working on a killer package, I have solid referees, so hopefully this will work out. Outside of T14 I'm going to apply to Minnesota and Iowa, but that's it. If I don't get in anywhere I'm staying in Canada.

It's going to be a need based waiver, don't think the 60% applies to that...

Bumping for applicants in new cycle

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 3.5/169 Where to do Early Decision??
« on: August 08, 2005, 03:24:28 PM »
There are some factors to consider here.

First off, though it has been mentioned before, Cornell does not have binding ED. They have EA which gives a response at the same time as other school's ED, but its non-binding. So take Cornell out of the mix.

Michigan's ED acceptees start school in May rather than September. It's a special session just for them which does give them the chance to finish LS one semester early. There is lots of information on their website about it.

G'town, from what I hear, gives a preference to ED applicants and it might be easier to gain admission applying ED.

Remember, ED is binding. If you aren't sure about the school DO NOT apply ED. Apply EA, it's almost the same effect and it doesn't force you to go with that option. For most people it would be a much wiser decision.

Yea well, hard not to be realistic. I've sent out emails to all ten of those schools, some have given really positive responses (Michigan in particular told me they would send me a fee waiver) and have said they would all but ignore the first LSAT (Boalt, Cornell, NW, Michigan). Others have been pretty negative and unimpressed (BU).

I guess I'll just have to put together a killer package and see what happens. I wouldn't mind spending a year in Minnesota at all, it's a rocking town that appreciates hockey. How can you not love that?

I figure if I apply to 8 schools the odd are decent that I'll get in to at least one. If it's Minnesota or WUSTL, that's fine. If it's something higher up, that's great. Either way, I'm happy.

And if I get in nowhere, well that sucks but I'll apply to a few schools in Canada too. Alberta is an LSAT whore, Dal is a cool school and I'll probably apply out West somewhere too.

Point is, no matter what happens I'll be going to law school, and that's good enough.

First off, I am white and I'm from an upper middle class family with some really wealthy relatives. The reason I don't want to go to some schools is that I have no interest in where their primary placement is. Texas would have to pay me money for me to apply. I'm less fussed about the others, but I really don't want to live in some parts of the US. I like the country as a whole, but given my cultural background and political beliefs, I would feel very uncomfortable in some areas. This also isn't an ignorant opinion, I have travelled all over the US and the world. I felt more 'welcome' in Turkey than I did in Lynchburg Tenn.

Now having said that I'm still open to applying to some schools in the south (Duke for one), but they would be way down my list of favourite schools. But it's like anod said, it will be easier to transfer from there - although how much easier it would be to transfer from Duke than it would be from Minnesota is a mystery to me.

In any case, the decision we reached over the weekend is that spending a year apart is acceptable. Living near Canada would be best, that way she could do a masters at a school close to the border. In that sense, Cornell and Michigan are right at the top of the list. However, I will apply to many schools in the top 25, but none outside of it. If I fall to a safety school, it will be in Canada, not in the US.

The vast majority of these would be reaches with my stats (3.2/161+170), but I'm hoping that many adcoms overlook the first LSAT. There's a really solid reason why it's low and why I didn't cancel which I can prove -- I travelled a VERY long way to write it the first time and was exhausted when I took it, and didn't cancel because it had cost a fortune and I didn't think I would be able to pay for another one. After I got my score my girlfriend's family offered to pay for me to write it again.

Anyways, basically I'm thinking of:

Michigan, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, G'town, UCLA, USC, Minnesota, BU and WUSTL.

That's 10 schools so I may need to cut some out. Of those, I would think of Minnesota as pretty likely (they take highest score and I'm 4 points above their 75th percentile) and WUSTL as the same (I hear they are LSAT whores) but all the others would be a miracle if I got in.

Being apart for a year is increasingly looking like the most likely outcome. It's not a huge deal since both countries have numerous schools right near the border. In fact, these are the schools that most appeal to me just for cultural reasons (it would be really hard to move from Canada to Virginia or Texas for example). Likewise, there are a lot of Canadian schools near the border. She can take a one year masters program, or work or whatever while she prepares for the MCATs and her applications while I do law school. It's not rocket science by any means.

I was hoping for something better, but if this is the best we can do that we just have to make it work. It's as simple as that...

My GPA is too low for Boalt anyways, but I've looked in to Michigan and fired them of an email. It actually looks like a perfect school for me, maybe the perfect school, but I need to see what they say about my email.

I'm borderline at T14 schools even if they do take my top LSAT with a 3.2 GPA. 3.2/170 might get me in somewhere...3.2/165.5, that's useless for T14.

Ya, I guess I could go to USC or UCLA and then apply to transfer to a bunch of places. Who knows.

I don't suppose the US has similar immigration policies to Canada where foreigners can essentially buy their way in does it? In Canada, all you have to do is invest 50k or 100k and you're in. Her parents are loaded and could move some assets around to help if it mattered.

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