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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: CLS class of 2009
« on: May 02, 2006, 02:30:02 AM »
Are law students not allowed to use the campus gym?

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: CLS class of 2009
« on: April 20, 2006, 12:27:18 AM »
Another '09 checking in.

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Columbia

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Law School Applications / Re: Columbia AILE
« on: March 23, 2006, 02:25:30 PM »
Congratulations!  :) What is AILE?

It's an accelerated program of sorts that 28 (I think) colleges have.  Basically, you complete 28 courses by the end of your junior year, take the LSATs in Feb. or earlier of your junior year and seek out a nomination by your school for the program.  If you get nominated and then Columbia accepts you, you get your undergraduate degree and your JD simultaneously when you graduate from law school.  You take four interdiscplinary classes to fulfill the BA/BS at any Columbia school in your 2L/3L.

So you graduate one year early then?

Technically, no, because I won't get my undergrad diploma until I receive my JD.

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Law School Applications / Re: Columbia AILE
« on: March 23, 2006, 12:14:48 PM »
Congratulations!  :) What is AILE?

It's an accelerated program of sorts that 28 (I think) colleges have.  Basically, you complete 28 courses by the end of your junior year, take the LSATs in Feb. or earlier of your junior year and seek out a nomination by your school for the program.  If you get nominated and then Columbia accepts you, you get your undergraduate degree and your JD simultaneously when you graduate from law school.  You take four interdiscplinary classes to fulfill the BA/BS at any Columbia school in your 2L/3L.

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Law School Applications / Columbia AILE
« on: March 23, 2006, 11:54:01 AM »
Woooooooo, just got into Columbia Law under the AILE program.  Hope to see all you other Columbia people in the fall!

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I'm sure a large amount turns down H for Y/S, but I'm sure a comparable, if not even larger amount turn down H for financial reasons.  Sizable money from other tops schools would likely lure away many candidates because, for most people, money is a large issue that a relatively minor bump in prestige cannot compensate for, especially when starting salaries in the private sector look very similar between the top schools.

Okay, but what people tell me when I bring that up (and I do bring it up, since I'm entirely self-financing) is that all I'd have to do is work 3-4 years in the private sector after law school and my debt would be gone. True, if I went somewhere significantly cheaper, I wouldn't be forced into well-paid grunt work for those 3-4 years, and I could do whatever I wanted. But I might be doing one of those grunt work jobs anyway. So the money is kind of less of a factor, even though it's terrifying that I might owe someone $150,000 at some point.

But why got $100k + in debt when you can be on scholarship at a school like UPENN or UMICH and still end up with the same 1st year salary?  For people who are simply seeking a future in the private sector and don't care about clerkships and things like that, but just about income I don't see how Harvard would be more appealing given the debt.  Money may be less of a factor from you're point of view, but not from the point of view of many other people, especially older applicants who may already have significant others, children, etc.

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I'm sure a large amount turns down H for Y/S, but I'm sure a comparable, if not even larger amount turn down H for financial reasons.  Sizable money from other tops schools would likely lure away many candidates because, for most people, money is a large issue that a relatively minor bump in prestige cannot compensate for, especially when starting salaries in the private sector look very similar between the top schools.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Columbia: what are the benefits?
« on: February 23, 2006, 12:50:00 AM »
Grey's Papaya for hotdogs!

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LSAT horror stories / Re: October LSAT - harder than usual?
« on: February 20, 2006, 12:02:53 PM »
My Actual Test.  Scored a 170, which was a few points below my practice average.  Test seemed normal compared to the other recent tests, somehow bombed the last five questions of one of the LR.  Misbubbling?

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