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For the purposes of this thread, does Vanderbilt count as an SEC school? ;)

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Vandy Class of 2009
« on: May 15, 2006, 10:46:10 AM »
Anybody else here a little nervous that we might end up with a very small entering class?  I guess that could be a good thing or a bad thing, or both.  I know that they've already been letting some people in off the waitlist.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: The Mormonism Thread
« on: May 12, 2006, 02:45:17 PM »
Anyone want to discuss the Book of Abraham, specifically the criticism of it?

An interesting find.  I think I had seen most of that before, but there was some new information as well.  Here are a couple of thoughts from my Mormon perspective...

1.  The connection between the Book of Abraham and a couple of the apocryphal books of the Bible (which Joseph Smith may or may not have been familiar with previously) might lend some credibility to its authenticity.

2.  Points 1, 3, and 4 in the "Analysis and Criticism" section ring true to me in a sense.  The reason I say that is that according to eyewitness accounts, much of the Book of Mormon was "translated" without the plates even being open.  I guess in that sense you could argue that the plates from which it was translated weren't even necessary, which would be a fair point.  For anyone interested in learning more about the origins of the Book of Mormon, I would HIGHLY recommend the new biography of Joseph Smith, Rough Stone Rolling.  It was written by Richard Bushman, a Mormon emeritus history professor at Columbia.  I'm about halfway through it now and have been amazed by the depth of the research and at Bushman's objectivity, considering he's a Mormon.  He discusses many aspects of Joseph Smith's life that other Mormon historical writers wouldn't have touched with a ten-foot pole (i.e. Bushman's admission that Joseph and his father were both interested in magic during Joseph's younger days).

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Vandy Class of 2009
« on: May 12, 2006, 10:32:22 AM »
Well everyone else is doing it, so why not us? lol. I didn't see any other 09 Vandy threads, so don't flame me.

Anyways, I just moved to Nashville, lovin it... live withing walking distance to the school, and can't wait to get started.

Just curious as to where you're living...also, did I make this up, or are you married?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Minnesota or Vanderbilt?
« on: May 10, 2006, 12:34:39 PM »
Number of firms recruiting at each school per

Vandy 415
Minnesota 115

Oh, and in response to the earlier post, I went to one of the Vanderbilt admit days and it was one of the friendliest places I've ever been.  Do yourself a favor--come to Vandy.

SLC to Nashville

Figured some new info might help some people make a decision.  Has updated firm info as well as a whole new layout.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: In at UCLA
« on: April 04, 2006, 07:48:54 AM »
Well, I did my good turn for the day and sent in my withdrawal...

Incoming 1Ls / Re: How many of you are married?
« on: April 03, 2006, 03:30:59 PM »
Married AND attending a Southern school.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: The Mormonism Thread
« on: March 31, 2006, 02:10:55 PM »
Interesting conversations.
I'm a theology major at Georgetown (it's Catholic, but I'm Jewish, for the record) and have had a chance to study Mormonism academically a bit in the past few years. I have to say I find it intriguing, and also would say that learning about Mormonism has reshaped my own thoughts/beliefs on religion more than my encounters with any other religion.
I think a large part of it comes down to the fact that we are so close to the source for Mormonism. This was started by an American, hardly 200 years ago. Judaism, Christianity, Islam - these were all begun in a different part of the world, 2,000 years ago - it is much easier to say either, well sure, God used to talk to people, but he doesn't anymore (or some variation thereof), OR to say I don't believe those things really happened, but back then people believed in that sort of thing so it wasn't so crazy.
Because look at the stories, is a man reading tablets out of a hat any more ridiculous than a guy who walks on water and whose body and blood we consume every Sunday? How about another guy who brings plagues with him, but you can protect yourself by painting your door with lambs blood? Or my personal favorite, God told another guy to cut off part of his male private part as a sign of his covenant?
The point is, the stories in Mormonism, while they seem "out there," are really no crazier than what anyone else believes, it's just easier to attack because we know so much about the source of these stories, and we can't say the same for most other religions.
Additionally, all the bad things in their past - well all I have to do is say look at the things Christians have done in the name of religion over the past 2000 years and you each have a number of examples pop into your heads (Crusades, inquisition, witch trials, etc). There is a decent degree of sexism written into the Old Testament, which most people now simply choose to ignore. Women still can't be Catholic priests. And on and on.

I'm not saying Mormonism is right - to be honest, it's made me believe more than anything that we are all equally ridiculous. But so what? These institutions are starting to correct some of their past mistakes, in my experience Mormons are nice, good people - at the very least on average with the general population...

So I see that this doesn't really have a clear point or conclusion, just some things to chew on...

Interesting to hear that point of view.  (BTW, I'm also a Mormon and just discovered this thread.)  It's also interesting to hear the viewpoints of some other LDS Church members about polygamy, blacks/priesthood, etc.  These are some issues that don't get talked about a lot anymore in regular church meetings, and therefore it seems to be up to each individual to look in his/her heart and mind, communicate with God as they see fit, and synthesize their own beliefs.  A very faith-building way to do things, IMHO.

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