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EnFuego22: Didn't you say like 2 pages ago that you were tired of defending Cooley? I'm beginning to think that you are either 1) a Cooley student or 2) a Cooley faculty member. Why else would someone defend the school so voraciously?

As for all of your "friends" who applied to Cooley for supposed financial reasons, although Cooley may not seem expensive compared to Harvard, it is compared to other schools. For example, U Colorado at Boulder, a top 50 school, charges $6,700/year tuition. There are tons of schools ranked way higher than Cooley that are way cheaper. It's obvious that the only reason people attend Cooley is because their numbers suck, not because they want to save money.

Mr. Incredible: you neglected to mention that the mayor of LA, Antonio Villaraigosa, failed the cali bar exam THREE TIMES. He never ended up passing it.

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Oh Canada! / Re: Windsor/Detroit Mercy Joint Program
« on: July 19, 2005, 02:59:06 PM »
Here's some advice, the extra degree is useless. Here's a better idea, figure out if you want to practice in the US or Canada. If in Canada, don't waste time/money on the JD. If in the US, find a better school than a tier 3 like Detroit Mercy. No employers in the US OR Canada will be impressed by a JD from DM.

If you are unsure, get your llb, then take a llm in the US (from a reputable school), which will allow you to practice.

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Oh Canada! / Re: U of T vs. Harvard
« on: July 19, 2005, 02:50:12 PM »
UofT is actually in the top ten.  Anyone who disputes this fact should look at this years entering class.  With an average gpa of 3.8 and average lsat of 166, UofT is definitely one of the most competitive law schools in North America.

I disagree with this. It is competitive but cannot be compared to a top 10 US school.

1) Regarding your criteria of what makes a school "top ten", consider this. The average LSAT for U of T (assuming the stats you posted are correct) is the same as the lowest 25% of the 10th ranked university in the US, Northwestern. This means that the average lsat at Northwestern is considerably higher than that of U of T. Though U of T does have a higher average gpa, the considerably lower LSAT median puts NU ahead, as in the US the LSAT is given more importance than GPA, meaning that if this were the only criteria to compare it to US schools, U of T would not quite make it into the top 10. Actually it would probably be around 11 or 12, as it has similar numbers to Duke.

2) LSAT and GPA entrance scores are not the only factors used in ranking the law schools. The funding these schools receive, their alumni network, acceptance rate, student/faculty ratio, etc. are also factors that weigh in. Without an extensive comparison of all these, it is impossible to say where U of T would rank compared to US schools.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: off topic: tom cruise is nuts
« on: June 25, 2005, 12:45:14 PM »
I would also suggest that Tom's scientology handlers and press agent are simply using him to push forward their own agenda. They want the name "scientology" out there so they can attract more people to their little cult, Tom is expendable in regards to THEIR master plan.

This I do agree with.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: off topic: tom cruise is nuts
« on: June 25, 2005, 12:36:55 PM »
dude, no one cares that you got a psych degree, couldn't find a job and decided to apply to law school. All this left brained/right brained stuff is first year anyways. 

Back to those wacky Scientologists, here's another article on the Fair Game policy:

http://www.clambake.org/archive/disk/fairgame.htm

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: off topic: tom cruise is nuts
« on: June 25, 2005, 12:13:11 PM »
Wow, i wonder why a psychaitrist is frequenting a board for law students.

Anyways, since this is a law board here's a relevant example of how scientology uses law suits:

http://www.skeptictank.org/moxon.htm

Scientology has some kind of policy, I forget what it's called, but essentially they run their critics into bankruptcy using law suits. I'll try to find another link for the policy.

Edit: It's called the fair game policy, check it out:

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/s04f.html

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Oh Canada! / Re: harvard
« on: May 18, 2005, 07:35:46 PM »
enjoy your debt!  ;)

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Oh Canada! / Re: Osgoode Joint Program with NYU!
« on: May 18, 2005, 07:29:56 PM »
Why would someone pay for 2 years of an american JD when you could finish your llb in canada for way cheaper then do a 1 year llm at a US school, which would allow you to practice in the us?

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Oh Canada! / Re: McGill v. top-14 US schools
« on: May 18, 2005, 07:25:03 PM »
OP: I dont think you should go to law school until you have a better idea of what you want to do with your degree. From your post it sounds like you are looking at too many options (practicing internationally, practicing in the US, clerking in the US, going into Academia).

Personally I think it is best to decide on pursuing ONE of these options, then go from there. Pick a path then follow it, or else you may end up 3 years down the line with a whopping debt and still no idea what you should do with your degree.

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Oh Canada! / Re: Queen's reputation
« on: May 18, 2005, 07:09:12 PM »
Although the average joe shmo american citizen may not know much about the canadian post secondary system, the same cannot be said for either adcoms OR potential employers. Here's a little anecdote for you about a girl I went to highschool with in a small town in buttcrack manitoba. This is her situation:

Worked in New York for Goldman Sachs after graduation with a degree in Finance

Recently entered Harvard business school to pursue an MBA

Got her undergrad from (drumrole...)





University of Calgary!

Not exactly like law school, but same kind of idea. This girl, from what some would call an "unknown" Canadian school, was not only accepted into a highly competitive academic program but also worked for one of the world's foremost investment firms. So for all you punks who think that U of T and McGill are the only possible way you can get accepted into T14 us schools AND find sweet bling bling NYC jobs, think again! Admissions departments and employers are a lot more knowledgable and aware of canadian schools than you give them credit for.

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