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General Board / Re: Active, engaged learner or gunner?
« on: September 07, 2005, 11:23:35 PM »
I'm in the same Property class as Comm-Law, and while I usually feel bad for any of my fellow classmates getting beat up, it was awesome to see our gunner get pounded on.
We are three weeks into 1L, and he's already over his question limit for law school... 

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U of Toledo / Re: U of Toledo -- Schedules
« on: August 16, 2005, 02:43:21 PM »
Count me in for Section 10, too  ;)

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U of Toledo / Re: U of Toledo -- Schedules
« on: August 11, 2005, 10:49:12 AM »
I asked about this awhile back, and the reply was "Your schedule will be given to you on Thursday, August 18."
We don't get to pick any times, sections, etc... for 1L.

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U of Toledo / Re: U of Toledo - Orientation
« on: August 04, 2005, 10:49:18 AM »
Congrats on the wedding Yorba. Yes, you did leave MI, but at least the gas is cheaper down there. And, Toledo was part of Michigan (from a Michigander's point-of-view) until 1836. At least we got the U.P. in trade, so I'll take that anyday of the week. See you at orientation, and I'm sure we'll go out one of those nights.

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U of Toledo / Re: Any thoughts on Toledo?
« on: June 20, 2005, 04:39:15 PM »
The Toledo Blade strikes again. Seriously, what the hell did the Dean do to piss them off so much???

Law dean's demotion correct

Despite pressure from within the University of Toledo law school community and elsewhere, UT Provost Alan Goodridge should hold fast to his decision to demote the school's dean, Phillip Closius, to the teaching faculty.

The dean's demotion was announced by the university earlier this month, along with a similar demotion for David Stern in the college of arts and sciences, and it has stirred protests from some faculty as well as some current and former students.

But it would be a mistake for the provost to back away from his decision, though our reasons may not mesh with his.

Mr. Goodridge cited financial considerations when he announced the demotions, saying both men had requested expensive new contracts for themselves and key staff, contracts the university cannot afford in its present financial condition.

While that is no doubt true, we think an even better reason for Mr. Closius' demotion is job performance.

We saw a glimmer of hope last year when the UT law school climbed into the second tier of American law schools as ranked by U.S. News & World Report magazine. That put UT in a five-way tie for 94th place out of 177 law schools.

But in April the school had dropped back into familiar territory in the third tier, reinforcing the notion that a school which should do better is mired in its own mediocrity.

Mr. Closius' departure will provide the university with an opportunity to conduct a true national search and find a dean who can attract top-notch faculty, persuade those few strong faculty members already on staff to stay, and finally lift UT's law school to a level of respect its students and the community deserve.

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U of Toledo / Re: Any thoughts on Toledo?
« on: June 17, 2005, 03:19:18 PM »
Well that sucks. I hope that the provost had a strong candidate (or two) in mind when he made this decision. Sucks for Dean Closius, too. Kind of reminds me of the Kansas basketball situation a couple of years ago. Awesome program, with a class guy in Roy Williams running it. New athletic director comes in, and next thing you know Roy is at North Caroline. But, at least Kansas is still a premier program. Let us all hope the new dean can come in and sustain what Dean Closius has achieved, and continue the progress.

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The Dean mentioned at the barbeque that the rankings for 1L don't come out until after the summer session, when people in your program are caught up.
That being said, I believe there are different ranking for day and evening division, and the transition program is considered day division. Don't hold me to that, but I recall seeing the rankings in the glass cases, and was pretty sure there were day/night rankings.

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U of Toledo / Re: Any thoughts on Toledo?
« on: June 15, 2005, 11:27:43 AM »
Very interesting. Good to see support for the Dean from students and alums. Hopefully Provost Goodridge will wise-up and realize Dean Closius knows what he is doing, and is the right person to lead the college of law.

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U of Toledo / Re: Hello?
« on: June 14, 2005, 02:33:37 PM »
I'll be there. Mcramer, did you make it out to the barbeque? I didn't see you, but saw flyers up for your house for rent, so I assume you were there...

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U of Toledo / Re: Any thoughts on Toledo?
« on: June 06, 2005, 12:27:41 PM »
(edit: looks like Frappe beat me to it. This link is to the article he posted)

Here's a link to the Toledo Blade article on the "demotion":
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050603/NEWS21/506030378&SearchID=73210343746446

Here's the key sentence in that article:
"Both men were appointed to their posts under the previous administration of President Vik Kapoor."

Also, what's up with the Toledo Blade hating UT/Dean Closius? I did a search for articles on Dean Closius, and here are some quotes from ones I found, pretty much wailing on the Dean since the day he was hired:

"Mediocre not good enough" - Editorial, Toledo Blade

"University of Toledo President Vik Kapoorís otherwise commendable purge of the old regime, a crusade intended to chart a new course and make the university a better place, came to a sudden stop at the moat that surrounds the College of Law. At a time when the university languishes yet again in the bottom quartile of U.S. News & World Reportís annual rankings of American institutions of higher education, at a time when the future of the law school itself is in question, stewardship of the college was turned over to a faculty insider with uninspiring credentials. The new law school dean, Phillip Closius, has been a faculty member since 1979, which may make him a survivor but hardly qualifies him to take over the administration and direction of the school."

THE University of Toledo Law School's improved national ranking is good news indeed and indicates the school is moving in the right direction. That is encouraging for the school and the community.
At the same time, it must be noted that the law school moved up just seven spots in the annual rankings by U.S. News & World Report, from 101st last year, to a five-way tie for 94th, and remains solidly in the middle of the pack.

Webster's Third New Dictionary (unabridged) defines the word "mediocre" as "of a middle quality." And that's a textbook description of the UT college of law. But it's getting better and striving to move up. We hope the progress continues.

"He worked for a law firm in New York and joined UT in 1979 as an associate professor, but is not licensed to practice law in Ohio, according to the Ohio Supreme Court's Web site."


I would love to know if anybody has any insight on the Blade....


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