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Current Law Students / Re: Hofstra or NYLS for NYC law?
« on: July 01, 2005, 06:51:01 AM »
I just finished my first year at NYLS.  I moved from California to be in New York City, and did not apply to Hofstra.  Since moving to New York I have heard very little about Hofstra. I have friends who go to to Brooklyn, St. Johns, Cardozo, etc., but I hear nothing about Hofstra.  I know that Hofstra ranks higher than NYLS, but I feel that NYLS has more of a presence in NYC (I could be off).  NYLS's location is great, but the school does leave a lot to be desired.  I feel that the quality of instruction is awesome. The administration + career services = suck.  The thing the guide book does not describe is the PLA + comprehensive curriculum.  Basically, the magic cut is the top 15%, which is a 3.31 GPA.  With that you get everything great the school could possibly offer - Law Review, the Harlans Program, and scholarships.  Plus, the career services actually is now interested in you.  If you are in the bottom 40%, PLA kicks in.  Basically, they force you into a class that does nothing but exam preparation.  However, everyone seems to like the PLA program.  It is the one first year class that is not on a curve.  Plus, the PLA program students do not take a final (I believe).  Finally, the professors also write practice finals that are only available to the PLA students.  The school's goal is to statistically increase the bar passage rates.  The students that are entirely overlooked fall between the top 15% and the bottom 40%.  I feel that this group gets the shaft.  You are fighting to maintain your first semester GPA against 40% of the class who is getting very good instruction on how to master an exam.  Meanwhile, you get no scholarship $, so at $38K you continue to worry about the massive debt you will face at graduation.  Finally, you are working your ass off to get connections to eventually get a job to pay back that massive debt.  From what I have seen, career servcies is basically worthless.  When we did our OCI recruitment, they sent out a package of information detailing the participating firms.  The package was full of mistakes and typographical errors.  If I had relied solely on the information package, I would have sent out cover letters with misspelled firm names!  Some of my peers got excellent summer positions at big firms (some of the biggest in NY).  One of my friends was in the bottom 40%, but got a fantastic summer position at a top 25 firm.  However, they all did it through family connections.  Career services definitely did not help get these jobs.  To go to either Hofstra or NYLS, you need good connections to get a firm job.  NYLS has a huge alumni network, so that is probably a good thing.  Anyway, I hope that helps.  I have mixed feelings about my year at NYLS.  I am looking to transfer, but it won't be the end of the world if I have to stay.

Transferring / Deep in the Heart of Texas
« on: April 18, 2005, 06:55:27 PM »
Questions about Texas.  So I've spent 1 year of lawschool in New York City and have racked up an unreal amount of debt already.  I have lived all over the US - including, California, Northeast, and Midwest (St. Louis).  I plan to transfer to a higher ranking school, but I don't know where I would like to settle geographically.  I've considered transferring to some schools in NY, but am also considering other cities.  Chicago is high on my list as both a fun city to live in, and a good legal market.  However, I am very curious about Texas.  Is Houston as cheap as they say?  And, how is the legal market?  I've looked at the estimated budget of University of Houston and it is 1/3 of where I go in NY.  What is Houston like?  Is there a chance of going to University of Houston and finding work in Austin?  What's the deal?  I'm all about cities, and would not want to live in suburbia. Thus, I'd probably want to live in downtown Houston, or somewhere within a 20 -30 minute commute.  Any suggestions? 

My advice - Get Laid a lot.  I know I'm not alone, at least at my school, but everyone is working so darned hard and there is no time for anything else.  There is more sexual frustration then you can shake a stick at.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Rutgers Law -- Camden v. Newark
« on: May 01, 2004, 08:05:20 AM »
NJLawGuy -

Did you hear from Rutgers Newark yet?  I just got into NYLS, but I would love to hear from Newark.

Choosing the Right Law School / New York Law School
« on: April 30, 2004, 07:29:01 PM »
The mailman finally showed up at my door with some good news!  An accpetance letter from New York Law School.  I applied to a rediculous number of law schools, and after ten rejections, an acceptance feels pretty nice.  I have two weeks to hear from other pending schools, but I think NY Law could be a good fit.  Has anyone decided on NY Law?  $1,320 for an apartment through student housing??  Damn!  I thought San Francisco was expensive!

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: How do you apartment search?
« on: April 29, 2004, 06:59:43 AM »
I've used craigslist to get all of my apartments!  It has links for most cities now.

I have read several threads on this board regarding national placement for various law schools.  From what I have read, for those not contenting for top 10-15 law schools, you should basically go to law school in a region where you might want to live after graduation.  I understand that many law schools like USF are very successful in placing graduates locally, but what about nationally?  It seems like schools like Brooklyn law and USD would have strong alumni connections all around the US.  Brooklyn boasts that it has an alumni base of over sixteen thousand.  I can't imagine that every Brooklyn alum only lives in New York City.  People move about constantly!  When I started searching for law schools I had no idea where I wanted to go.  I love San Francisco, but could be happy in Boston, New York, LA, or beyond.  I went to school for engineering at Washington University in St. Louis, and had no problems getting emplyoment in San Francisco (though civil engineering is a less saturated field than law).  I have not started researching these alumni connections, any other folk wondering the same thing?  I would be pretty excited to get into USD, but based on much of what I read on this board I would be committing my future law career to san diego, a place I have only visited once.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Rutgers Law -- Camden v. Newark
« on: April 25, 2004, 07:56:41 PM »
I spoke to someone in the Rutgers office last week and they said that they would be starting the review process again this week, but it may be 3-4 weeks to get the final decision.  I was a little surprised because all of the other mailings I have received from the two came at the same time.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Rutgers Law -- Camden v. Newark
« on: April 25, 2004, 05:37:52 PM »
I was also thinking about which Rutgers would be better.  I have been waitlisted at Camden and I have not heard yet from Newark.  From what I hear, Camden is absolutely bad.   Everyone who has commented on Camden has shared this feeling, but it is close to Philly.  Newark is not the nicest place in the country either, but may be a bit nicer than camden.  It is pretty easy to get in to NYC on public transportation as well.  I think both of them, however, have a strong academic reputation.  I wonder if the lower median LSAT at Newark may be related to the two admissions options they offer.  The first being a numbers based admissions criteria and the second being life experience.  I chose the latter option as my LSAT score is pretty low.  I don't think you can beat NJ state tuition either!  I am not a resident but everyone is considered for residency after the first year.

Good luck on your decision! 

One was an env. law student, one civil practice, the third is a non-profit type.  The env. law friend was the only one having struggles finding a job.  I heard log cabins go pretty cheaply up there!  F$#@ the winters though. :)

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