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me too: georgetown, fordham, and berkeley.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Tulane??
« on: March 26, 2004, 11:19:27 AM »
do it.  what harm can it do?

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: I HATE WAITLISTS
« on: March 26, 2004, 06:53:15 AM »
Hey, I'm withdrawing from Northwestern within the next few days, and possibly taking myself off Georgetown's waiting list... so maybe you'll fill the spot!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Public Interest Fellowship
« on: March 26, 2004, 06:45:45 AM »
Thank you so much for that, honestly.  It means a lot to me; it is so challenging to maintain your integrity in this commodified process of selling oneself and buying an education. I feel a little dumb for fishing for support on here, but most of the people in my life don't know enough about law school to offer much in the way of specifics. Best of luck to you.  Thanks. 

Okay.  Two issues: ranking and true quality of a school and loan forgiveness. 

Karen, the programs vary from school to school.  Some of them do require very low salaries, but others have a sliding percentage scale that goes all the way up to like $50,000.  Some make the criteria just working for a nonprofit or gov. institution and don't worry about the salary.  I'm only familiar with those from Georgetown, Yale, and Cornell, but I think there is a lot of variance.  I have a lot of friends who have been well served by them, but of course it's not perfect.  For example, one yale grad friend of mine still owes 100,000 on her principle, but has been saved by this program.  However, she got pregnant and wanted to stop working, but couldn't because then her loans would start again in full and she couldn't afford it on her non profit salary.  So she worked all through her pregnancy. 

Suzy Q -- I hear you.  And I do believe that the law world's focus on ranking and reputation is pretty dumb.  I don't think the quality of law schools is as different as their perceived reputations are.  However, from everything I've heard and seen, doors do open or close for you in terms of opportunity for certain jobs based on the perception of your school's reputation.  Now I'm sure you could find some great little nonprofit that doesn't care where you went, but in case you ever wanted to go bigger and be a bigwig at the ACLU, or LCHR, or whatever, I think a higher tiered school will make a difference.

Choosing the Right Law School / Public Interest Fellowship
« on: March 26, 2004, 06:24:56 AM »
Hey all, I just couldn't help but post this with excitement -- just informed yesterday by phone that I was given a full tuition scholarship for public interest work at American!  I can't believe it.  I know some other people were wondering about timelines for scholarships and for American, so here it is.  Now I just have to swallow my pride and say no to those higher ranked schools that would dig my grave in debt... right?  I hope this is the right decision.  It's a gorgeous school with incredibly strong departments in my field, but that old snobbery does keep pulling at me.  Support?  Am I crazy for choosing a lower ranked school, even with full tuition coverage?

I too, am exclusively interested in public interest work.  The way I look at it, I don't want to close any doors.  I may be happy at a tiny little nonprofit somewhere, or I may want to get into international diplomacy or academia.  Either way, I will be well served with the best degree I can get.  Also, I don't want to buy into the public interest ghetto thing.  More top tier grads should be doing public interest -- it raises the level of the work being done and of the prestige of a service career, which can only help the cause.  Also, most top tier schools have loan repayment programs for those who pursue public interest careers, so the low salaries don't make it impossible. 

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Social Engineers?
« on: March 25, 2004, 09:51:41 AM »
"Only certain kinds of people are social engineers"

And what kind of people are those?

Law School Admissions / Re: Self Identification
« on: March 25, 2004, 09:48:13 AM »
What would evidence of being African-American be?  I have a friend who "looks white" whose mother is white and father is black.  He has never known his father.  How would he "prove" his African-American identity?

Law School Admissions / Re: Self Identification
« on: March 25, 2004, 08:43:56 AM »
I don't know, but I do know that my mom, who when she was my age had long black hair she wore in braids (hippie) was filling out forms for grad school and my dad as a joke checked off Native American.  she got soooo many scholarship offers (of course she didn't take any). 

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