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i did not get an A in my first law school class either (at the same school you are at.) i got significalty lower than an A.  i finished the year in top 15% and xfered.

Current Law Students / Re: Law Review Write-On Competition
« on: April 20, 2008, 04:00:51 AM »
Seriously, people on here are acting like I am soliciting someone to perform a hit for me.  I plan on writing the paper but I just want help with editing. 

actually, you said you want someone "to guide and assist me on material issues." either way, it's pretty lame. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: W&L v. UIUC
« on: April 14, 2008, 04:30:44 AM »
public transportation = zero (except for the van service that carts around drunk kids at night)

if you live close enough to the school, you could bike/walk/carpool.  A car comes in handy if you want to get out of town for shopping/airport etc...  I think not having a car is workable, you just have to deal with a bit of inconvenience.

Law School Admissions / Re: What's your favorite quote?
« on: April 13, 2008, 12:20:30 PM »
must not sleep must warn others
trust blocks creep where the dust storm hovers

you should post this on the other board - there are a few GW students on there

Law School Admissions / Re: All about TRANSFERRING! (after 1L year)
« on: March 11, 2008, 06:00:23 AM »
Do transfer applications ask for LSAT and UGPA? 

You bet they do. They want the full LSAC report and transcripts.

full lsac reports are required, but unless you are applying to one of few schools that actually consider ugpa/lsta, i.e., harvard, pretty much the ONLY thing that matters is your class rank from 1L.

Law School Admissions / Re: All about TRANSFERRING! (after 1L year)
« on: March 10, 2008, 07:06:27 PM »
From GW to BC?  (BC allowed 17 transfers in last year)
From GW to BU?  (BU allowed 6 transfers in last year)
From GW to Georgetown? (GT allowed 100 transfers last year(!))
From GW to Harvard? (Harvard allowed 34 transfers in last year)

i'm assuming that you got this from the aba data sheets on lsac....i think you're reading the info incorrectly; each school did not "allow" that number of transfers in that particular year.  The numbers reported are the ACTUAL numbers that transferred in and out.   really, each school most likely accepted more students than those that actually transferred in.  how much more is the big question.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Florida Coastal
« on: March 07, 2008, 10:20:57 AM »

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Florida Coastal
« on: March 07, 2008, 09:54:28 AM »
uh, come down off my high horse?  ok. if you think my comment was snotty, thats fine.  but, i really dont think you can legitimately argue with what i said.  my point was not to be a jerk, but rather to show that the assumptions made by previous posters of good jobs, good grades, maintaining scholoraships, not getting kicked out, transferring etc... are simply misleading. 

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Florida Coastal
« on: March 05, 2008, 02:04:48 PM »
I was accepted there with a $10k scholarship.  I have been doing lots of research prior to applying and since being accepted, and that is how I came across this forum.  Yes, they are a for=profit law school, but their bar passage rate and employment rate is excellent.  I have come across many non-profit private schools with bar passage rates so low is is scary.  Yes, Steve sent me an email, but I had already planned on applying before then.  I also got emails from like 25 other recruiters and even xmas cards and things encouraging me to apply to such and such school, some of them multiple times, so it isn't just Steve that hunts you down.  I had to actually block the emails from all the schools I had no interest in.  The reason you get these emails without applying to the school is the LSAC website.  they share your info with law schools, and some recruiters go in and search for a range of data of gpa's and lsat scores, and then contact everyone that meets that criteria.  All law schools do it, not just FC.  Anyhow, the scholarship offer is not for everyone.  You have to maintain a 3.0 gpa to keep getting it.  I am certainly considering going there if I don't here from some other choices, and no, I do not have a pathetic gpa/lsat, I know a lot of people think that if you want to go to FC then you must have horrible stats.  I have actually been accepted to 5 schools, one of them in tier 2.  I think FC's stats speak for itself.  And the other thing, about people not getting jobs or whatever.  I would go to FC because I want to move to Florida.  Not because I want to enjoy the beach for 3 years and then move again.  The first thing I ever learned about choosing a law school is that you are most likely going to end up living where you go to school.  SO obviously if I go to FC I am expecting to live in Jacksonville.  I just haven't come across a good argument as to why this school is so bad or bad mouthed.  It seems to me to be a good school that has begun to establish itself as a true competitor among Florida law schools.  JMHO

Is the scholarship conditional on using paragraphs to make your writing more coherent? 

 :D :D :D

For what its worth, Jacksonville is a blossoming city and is fairly large. There are a lot of jobs there, and I'm sure that u could get a decent job coming out of this school (at least in that area).

Indeed... although this isn't really the best research, I was surfing Holland and Knight's pages for both the Tampa and Jax offices... There are a few Florida Coastal graduates at Holland and Knight Jacksonville. So you can find a job at a good firm with a degree from there. For what it's worth, they did have 'high honors' distinction, but that really doesn't come as a surprise.

But basically, if you work really hard, and you manage to come in at the top of your class and want to work in the Jacksonville area (which is a great area to work, I wouldn't mind working there if I remained in Florida, it's one of my top choices, in fact) you can find some good jobs. But you'll have to work hard and not allow yourself to settle at the bottom, because then you're at risk for being passed over.

This really is nothing new... I mean why would any top firm take graduates from the bottom when they have the pick of graduates from the top of the class? It's only fair.

Anyway, are there better options in Florida? Definitely. But if you want to work in FL and the best school you can get into is Florida Coastal, then it's not like you're just throwing your money away. At the worst, if you get there, you do well, and you find you don't like it, you can try to transfer to another Florida university for your remaining two years. Good luck regardless.  :)

1. who cares if h&k has a couple fcl grads?  that does not mean crap, your're missing the point. H&K is 1 of only 2 NALP firms that participates in fcsl oci.  that is horrible.  there is no positive spin on this. 

2. merely working "really hard" will not yield a good job at practically any school.  merely "working hard" will certainly not yield a good job for a fcsl grad.  again, you're missing the point, working hard does not equal finding "some good jobs."  ESPECIALLY if you are at a school in which 1/3, yes, 1/3 of your class will not graduate!  do you think 1/3 of the class just does not work hard, and flunks out?  the huge attrition rate is due to the schools policy.

3. actually, going to a school like fcsl is just like throwing away your money.  assuming no scholarship, graduating 150k in debt and taking the same pay rate that you could have obtained with your BA from whocares university is the equivalent of throwing away your money.

4. "At the worst, if you get there, you do well, and you find you don't like it, you can try to transfer to another Florida university "  wait a worst? at worst you do well and then transfer?  sorry buddy, that is the absolute best case scenerio that everyone and their brother will be hoping for after 1l at fcsl.

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