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Wait List / Re: Cornell Summer Wait list.
« on: August 01, 2005, 08:36:04 PM »
No offense, but I have some doubts about what you just said. I had been in contact with them late last week and they said that no spots had opened up and that they had not gone to the wait list yet.

Could you please elaborate on what was said in your phone call? Did they say anything about how they notified people or if the people had accepted the a wait list offer?

jeez...i really gotta change my LSD name or something, it's like it oozes distrust. i have posted what i hoped would be helpful information in the past and ppl shot it down as doubtful - only to find out its validity in a day or two. i'm not a dishonest person - my post speaks for itself and i don't take back a word of what i said. it was a short phone call and there isn't really anything to add to it, that's really all there was to it. and no, i did not delve into nitpicky things like your latter question - i just called to gauge my chances. i am sorry if this is messing with what they told you before or something, but it is what it is. unless she 1. lied or 2. is misinformed, this is the way it is.

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Wait List / Re: Cornell Summer Wait list.
« on: August 01, 2005, 04:23:06 PM »
just a head's up ppl...i called cornell this afternoon to ask if there has been/will be any movement on the waitlist. the lady told me that there were a few acceptances last week, and didn't know if there would be any more movement. she gave me aug 19th as the last possible date an offer of admission could potentially be given. aaaarrrgh  :-\

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Michigan vs. Georgetown, with info
« on: July 29, 2005, 05:35:28 PM »
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I've seen a number of old rankings, and I've never seen Georgetown ever ranked in the top 10, although it is clearly a fine, top 15 school.  The traditional top ten, going by most ratings and rankings, are HYS, CCN, Michigan, UVA, Boalt, and Penn.  Duke also often cracks this list for some reason, up near the 10 spot with Penn.  Cornell, NU, and Georgetown are three excellent programs that were traditionally considered a shade below the top 10. 

If you can find any old USNews ranking that has Gtown in the top 10, I'd be happy to see it.  Either way, it's certainly not a top 10 school today.  Rather, it is a top 14/15 school, and is as close to the 18 spot as it is to the 10 spot.

well it appears we were both wrong in certain respects. here are the links i was referring to earlier. the yahoo group is free to join, and fully corroborates the data in the LSD thread:

http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,27606.0.html

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LawSchoolRankings/

GULC was in the top 10 in 1993. So that refutes your statement that GULC has never been in the top 10. However, I was quite wrong in saying that GULC was a top 10 perennially in the past, as 93 is the only yr it was in the top 10. However, in the 90's, which makes up the predominant amount of time in which law schools were ranked, GULC held the 11/12 spot (and a smattering of the 13 spot) the majority of the time, thus making it closer to a top 10 school than a top 14/15 school. It is only around the yr 2000 or so did GULC consistently place at 14. Whether GULC will go back to it's old spot near the top 10 or stay put in years to come obviously remains to be seen. anyhow, just thought i'd set things straight - i guess we could both do a little more research before debating these sort of nitpicky things haha  :P

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Michigan vs. Georgetown, with info
« on: July 29, 2005, 10:17:33 AM »
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Finally, even if you "simply cannot say a top ten program is better than another", this doesn't really relate to the issue at hand, since Georgetown has never been ranked in the top 10.  Rather, Georgtown is an excellent, national school in the top 14 or 15, depending on where you make the cutoff.
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SJ, just to point out, georgetown HAS been ranked in the top 10 in the past - in fact, until the late 1990s i think (i could be wrong) it was consistently in the top 10. there are a number of posts floating around here with old rankings that verify this and i think there is a group on yahoo with the old rankings which will also support the veracity of this. it would serve you well to use facts instead of things you made up to back up an argument - may come in handy in your law school and legal career.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Cornell Reserve List
« on: June 15, 2005, 05:28:28 PM »
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Your name, "res ipsa loquitor."  Disgruntled, I was being merely facetious.  You yourself called it inane, right??  But some words like "pathetic" "insecurity" and "transfer" does not sound so nice. 

I don't want to goto Cornell badly.  I have no choice since I applied only to five schools after the deadline.  I wanted to take a year off, but this waitlist got me kinda interested. 

Aren't you the one who f-ing brought this sh*t up in the first place by f-ing going around and giving gratuitous speach to random internet people that you are gonna go to Cornell and not Michigan.  And started acting like a biatch saying sh*t like, "wee wee I  got in to Michigan but want to goto Cornell."  Dog, just be real and go f-ing call Psychic MOM hotline and tell them your problem.  Its disgusting.

Why don't you f-ing goto Michigan and then f-ing transfer??  Why don't YOU do that instead of f-ing writing this half a page bull talking about me?  You are f-in insecure since you need INTERNET TO CRY OUT YOUR PROBLEMS.  I WAS f-ing AROUND BECAUSE YOU SOUNDED LIKE A LITTLE BIATCH.  Don't front about your gay Michigan admission because we all know Michigan is easier to get in then Cornell, at least for me. 

Stay in the f-ing waitlist if you want I don't give a #@!*.  Just don't f-ing talk about me.   
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this is my last post on the topic - i don't feel these brainless posts merit a response, but i will make an exception for this one because it is so hideously stupid.
first, i never "gratuitously" spoke about michigan. i talked about my situation simply because people asked me why i wanted to go to cornell instead of michigan. in the spirit of this board's purpose, to disseminate information to those seeking it, i obliged and gave an explanation. if you had the reading comprehension of an 11 yr old, you would have seen this. furthermore, ppl on this site are always posting "i got into XYZ law school, yipee!" i mention michigan in passing and you get all riled up? i stand by my original assertion that you are so insecure with yourself that you have to respond in such a worthless manner.
second, you claim that you are acting facetious - well if you are then please do so without butchering the english language and typing like you are some poser-gangsta. it's depressingly lame. however, i really think your so-called facetious nature is just masking your ugly insecurity, evidenced by you littering your posts with profanity (which makes you totally cool by the way), and as you are blatantly immature and rude in many of your responses to other posters. let me be "facetious" as well when i say, "damn, that is wack yo!"
lastly, i don't have a "problem" as you so ignorantly stated. i never even implied that. i'd like to go to cornell, but i am in at other schools i would be content to attend if things do not work out. i never said anything out of line with what anyone else on this thread said - i simply sympathized, speculated, and gave out information when it was pertinent like everyone else. if you detected anything other than that, it was your own delusions. this is my last post to you, jcrap2, i am done with your patheticness.

good luck to everyone else still waiting on cornell.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Cornell Reserve List
« on: June 15, 2005, 01:41:30 AM »
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1. I have a bunch of friends at Cornell and none at Michigan. My family and friends are from NY or are currently around the area so I would like to be closer to them - I have no connections whatsoever in Michigan. Plus, all I really am looking for out of law school is a well-paying BigLaw job in NYC, and frankly you can get that out of any T-14.

2. This IS the state of the reserve list, as unappealing as it is, and you can call them yourself to verify if you are skeptical/unwilling to stomach the reality. The lady working the admissions phones is very nice and has no problem answering questions.

That being said, good luck everybody, I think we are gonna need it....

Hey man, I was not doubting that what you said was true. I was more just gripping about how this whole process has been going. The letter they initially sent was just more optimistic.

I am thankful that you are keeping us updated. I seriously do not want to seem like I am ungrateful or am doubting you. If some other tone seemed to come through, it probably was just because I am just so disappointed about all of this.

Do they ask your name when you call, by the way?

I have a feeling this boy is playing around.  Dude, just goto Michigan. PLEASE~!!!!!!!  JUST f-ing GO MAN.  GO FOR three years, make some new friends, and then get a job at NYC...PLEASE~!!!!!!

haha oh jeez...
look dude, being brutally honest, you have sounded pretty pathetic in some of your posts, and in this one in particular. what you find to be true and good for yourself most certainly will not be applicable to everyone else. there are 6 billion people on the planet and you should respect the fact that everyone has diff opinions/desires. i have no desire to be out in the midwest for 3 yrs if i don't have to. michigan's marginally better name is not worth spending 3 yrs (which to me is a lot of time in life, which is short enough) in the midwest, a part of the country i hate, when i could achieve what i want in a place whose programs are more fitting for what i want in my law school experience, a place i am more comfortable with, where family and friends are near, and where some of my best buds and fraternity brothers are. in fact, to elucidate this concept to you, i have recently decided to attend GULC instead of michigan if i do not get in off the cornell (or NYU, but like thats gonna happen) waitlist. but that being said, i am still going to definitely attend cornell if i get in off the waitlist. i'm sorry if that is so unreasonable to you. i would find a more constructive way to deal with your insecurity issues, like learning to be happy with where you got in and having the resolve to work hard during 1L and transfer to cornell if you want to go there so badly. desperately convincing ppl to drop off the waitlist in a rather inane and insignificant effort is certainly not the most prudent way to resolve your issues...

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: USC over Duke/GULC (I need advice)
« on: June 04, 2005, 05:33:59 PM »
both schools over 3 years

Hey Sones83, where you at the March 31/April 1 GULC admitted students day? Did you attend Loyola Chicago for undergrad and attend the weekend w/ your mother? I think I met you, but I'm not sure.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Cornell Reserve List
« on: June 01, 2005, 03:14:45 PM »
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1. I have a bunch of friends at Cornell and none at Michigan. My family and friends are from NY or are currently around the area so I would like to be closer to them - I have no connections whatsoever in Michigan. Plus, all I really am looking for out of law school is a well-paying BigLaw job in NYC, and frankly you can get that out of any T-14.

2. This IS the state of the reserve list, as unappealing as it is, and you can call them yourself to verify if you are skeptical/unwilling to stomach the reality. The lady working the admissions phones is very nice and has no problem answering questions.

That being said, good luck everybody, I think we are gonna need it....

Hey man, I was not doubting that what you said was true. I was more just gripping about how this whole process has been going. The letter they initially sent was just more optimistic.

I am thankful that you are keeping us updated. I seriously do not want to seem like I am ungrateful or am doubting you. If some other tone seemed to come through, it probably was just because I am just so disappointed about all of this.

Do they ask your name when you call, by the way?

i understand where you are coming from, believe me. no hard feelings. i have had a lot of anxiety in the past months about cornell as well. but it really has gotten to the point where they have strung us along in almost every imaginable scenario, told us one thing and said another the next week, and have failed to give us anything concrete for the longest time. i think the best we can all do is hold out some optimistic hope that something good may happen in the next couple of weeks, but not to let it get to us. i myself will take this attitude until the next time i hear from them, and unless it is an acceptance, i am going to forget about them altogether. i am already in at good enough and comparable schools that the stress of this is simply not worth a summer of further worrying.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Cornell Reserve List
« on: June 01, 2005, 02:40:08 PM »
Finally, are we at least going to hear something next week? When is their second deposit deadline anyway?

Didn't see this one - if you read what I wrote earlier in my long post, next week is the EARLIEST we will hear back. What does this mean? We could be sent emails about our status at midnight next Monday, or we could be sent letters about it on August 31st - theres no telling. Also, I believe that their second deposit deadline has already passed, not sure about that though.

Anyway, I'm not here to spread bullsh*t, I actually try to be useful and help ppl out here with common sense and actual facts.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Cornell Reserve List
« on: June 01, 2005, 02:30:57 PM »
I just called and got some pretty disheartening news:
 
1. I first asked when we would hear back. The lady said that as they were still reviewing files, next week would be the earliest that we would hear back. She said that no decisions had been made yet. She had said the same thing to me about a week and a half ago.

2. I next asked if she knew if people would be pulled off reserve list this year. She told me that there were "No spots left in the class, but it doesn't mean that people won't withdraw."

Obviously not what anyone wants to hear, but it is what it is. My take on the situation is that 180+ ppl have already sent in deposits, but they suspect (probably based on past yrs statistics) that a small handful of them will withdraw sometime this summer, putting them slightly below 180. My suspicions remain unchanged that only the cream of the crop of the reserves will be taken. Who am I to say though. The one thing I can definitively say though is as follows: TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE PUT DOWN DEPOSITS AT CORNELL AND ARE NOT GOING - PLEASE WITHDRAW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! DO A FAVOR TO THOSE LESS FORTUNATE!

That is all, and I am preemptively packing my bags for Ann Arbor for the moment.

First of all, why are you not just going to Michigan anyway? Secondly, if this is the state of the reserve list, why wouldn't they just move forward with putting the best on a wait list?

1. I have a bunch of friends at Cornell and none at Michigan. My family and friends are from NY or are currently around the area so I would like to be closer to them - I have no connections whatsoever in Michigan. Plus, all I really am looking for out of law school is a well-paying BigLaw job in NYC, and frankly you can get that out of any T-14.

2. This IS the state of the reserve list, as unappealing as it is, and you can call them yourself to verify if you are skeptical/unwilling to stomach the reality. The lady working the admissions phones is very nice and has no problem answering questions.

That being said, good luck everybody, I think we are gonna need it....

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