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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Golden Gate
« on: April 24, 2009, 12:12:21 AM »
Is the scholarship renewable each year based on grades or $48k/year unconditionally?

I ask this because the last time I checked they are on probation with the ABA for low bar pass rates.  This may have changed though, so you may want to ask them.  Personally, I would not risk it because a lot can happen in 3 years.

However - I've heard they have a great tax program and the scholarship would keep your loans low.  The law school itself is not bad and conveniently located.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Seattle University or McGeorge?
« on: April 24, 2009, 12:03:40 AM »
Many McGeorge grads go into government as well - AG's office, State Leg, various gov't agencies. You can also intern with a gov't agency during your 2L/3L year, or extern with a state/federal judge.  After 1L year, many students study abroad in Salzberg, Austria and take classes with Justice Kennedy. If you are interested in trial work, we have a great advocacy program. Faculty members are very accessible and friendly.

It really depends on what type of law you want to practice.  Without knowing more, it's hard to give advice.  However,  since you are from NYC/the East Coast I would DEFINITELY recommend visiting both campuses before making a decision.  Sacramento has changed a lot recently and while it's not quite as urban as San Francisco or Los Angeles, it does have some fun areas (Midtown, for example). Wherever you go, it'll be your home for the next 3 years - just something to keep in mind.

The USF/McG discussion seems pretty popular here. I was accepted to SCU/USF/McG and am a 3L at McG.

I would recommend visiting both campuses and interacting with the staff.  The area is not as bad as some people say - the campus itself is beautiful and very safe.  Also, what area of law do you want to go into? McG has very good international and advocacy programs.  I recommend against making a decision based on rank alone, as USF and McG seem to flip flop in ranking each year.

Feel free to contact me with any questions (that goes for all applicants considering McGeorge).

Law School Admissions / To call or not to call?
« on: April 14, 2006, 01:23:31 PM »
My mom's coworker used to work for the UC Davis admissions office. I'm still waiting to hear back from UCD, and she suggested that I call them and tell them that they're my #1, I really want to go to their school, etc etc. She says that a simple phone call like this could help my application b/c it shows i'm interested or whatever. But I'm kinda hesitant because they might think the opposite and just think I'm annoying and impatient and that I should wait like everyone else. Do these phone calls work or is she just BSing? With the volume of applications these days, I would think they would discourage candidates from calling their office. Any thoughts?


I was impressed with the campus and the some of the professors, but some of the students were disappointing. I sat in on a class that utilized the socratic method and most of the students being called on could not answer the questions the professor was asking, many of which actually opted for a joke over a serious answer. The next week I sat in on a class at USD and it was like night and day, these students were on it and prepared when they were called on (and yes they were being called on at random as well). Maybe I just got a bad first impression.However the McGeorge alumni impressed me, they were very accomplished and inspiring.

I verified the 23k from USF is for a maintaining a 2.0, which makes that option suddenly more attractive. Why is McGeorge held in a higher regard, compared to USF?

Hah! I'm hoping I can work that to my advantage, and hopefully transfer. Or graduate within a certain top % of my class. Did you attend a class for the day or night division?

I think USF is probably a decent school, but given that it's in the same city as Hastings and close enough to Boalt and Stanford, it's not that much in comparison. McGeorge I've heard is pretty good, but I don't know how the two (McG and USF) would compare. McG seems to have more $ to give out, and is more "up and coming" and has more potential. Just my impressions, I could be wrong. I'll be visiting next week at the open house :)

No go on Hastings

I visited McGeorge on there legal scholar day,I was marginally impressed, I went by Davis just to look at King Hall, definately got a more scholarly feel. I am leaning toward wanting to work in a small firm or doing something in gov't, not too interested in Big Law...but with that said, who knows what I will want to do after my first couple of years in school.

Here is an update

still no money from Davis
acceptance to USD - no money yet

and  the out of states

Minnesota w/ 5k - I really like this school, but I have to consider whether I could deal with leaving CA indefinately. But if I got instate after the first year this looks like the most bang for my buck.

Colorado - No Money
UNC- No Money

Just curious.. why were you only marginally impressed with McGeorge? I may end up going there, just wondering what you weren't so impressed with.

I was talking to my boss and he said that McGeorge is known for churning out people who pass the bar exam, not great legal minds/attorneys. How true is this? I did notice that they don't have the usually legal writing and analysis course for the 1L curriculum, just a "legal process" course.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Hastings Ding
« on: February 28, 2006, 01:08:31 PM »

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Davis vs. Hastings
« on: February 28, 2006, 11:12:48 AM »

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