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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Taking LSAT in June 05
« on: January 04, 2005, 01:21:26 PM »
What sections are you having the most trouble with if you don't mind my asking?

I think practice is the most important thing but I think you need a system to do well unless you're a genius.

If you're having trouble with all the sections there's some good books that will help and if you take a course that will help even more.

I'm pretty sure that if you're having trouble with a particular question you can post here and people would be glad to help out with the logic.

Good Luck,

Ideas for the PS.

You need to come up with some life experiences. I wouldn't worry about whether they're interesting or not yet, just come up with as many as you can.

Made All-Stars in baseball? Volunteered to pick up garbage in the park?

Dramatic events in your life count too. If you were in an accident, or someone close was write it down. if you have a special life situation that counts too.

Whatever your experiences are just list 'em down until you have as many past meaningful (to you) experiences listed on a sheet of paper.

Think of how each of those experiences affected you and list down at least 2 ways for each experience. Then look at your list and choose 3-5 that you think are most interesting even if that's dull as dishwater.

Then come back to the board and we'll help you expand them into a real PS.

If you get that far my opinion is you'll have some ideas on how to get your PS going.

I agree with the others that this intro is in sore need of a trash bin but there's some useful information.

The phrase "throughout my life," has got to go. It's like saying 'Once upon a time." You've got limited space and you need to make an impression on the reader. You need to think interesting and compact. Don't try to lead into what you want to say, just say it. In a way that's interesting, of course.

I just know that with the experiences that you've listed that you've got a decent opening and the PS that follows. My advice, if you feel stuck for an opening, would be to take your proudest moment and replay that experience for the reader. Then expand on that alway focusing on why you would make a good law student.

Both the Eagle Scout award and the championship are valuable experiences that make you pretty unique. Don't tell us that you got them, tell us what's special about you that ensured that you would achieve those goals.  And tell us how your special abilities will carry over into law school.

If you can't start put in a dummy opening like, "My proudest moment was <fill in the blank>," "<specific example of hard work toward a single goal>" and "I think my success and dedication when faced with a goal will make me a good law student."

That's not exactly how I'd word it but that's one way you can go with converting your successful experiences to positive attributes for the PS.

I think just the opposite. I think this could be a positive thing. The important thing is that you know what they're going to write.

I think it WOULD be a mistake if they state in the letter that they were a student with you. If they instead focus on your ability and motivation while you both volunteered together I think it makes for a good LoR.

Something along the lines of, "while soandso was working for <insert vol. organ. here> he showed exemplary work habit."

I would never ask anyone to lie, but they can only put in the important parts. I think that's what the school is looking for, references that are willing to say they vouch for you.

It's absolutely killing me not knowing what I got on the SAT. I felt like I did well so I'm applying to T1 schools but who knows. If I knew that I did poorly I could adjust my personal statement to reflect that.

Oh well, if wishes were fishes and all that stuff.

I'm with you Tippy.

I plan on having some references to personal experiences but I don't like the story format for myself.

Not that I think anyone is doing the wrong thing, just that it feels awkward to me to write about my self in that way and I think it shows in the PS.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: new... average LSAT with no prep?
« on: December 15, 2004, 10:26:30 AM »
I took a practice test, timed sctrictly without any prep and got a 164. Of course it's different on test day with all the stress and the exhaustion factor from an experimental section.

That makes it sound like I should do pretty well but I practiced every single LSAT out there and my best was 170. I felt like I did really well on the Dec test but the truth is I'd be happy with my first practice score of 164.

I'm not an expert but there were a few things I'd change.

First I'd like to point out a missed word. In the 5th paragraph you have, "I plan work," instead of I plan to work. I'm sure you would have caught that in a proofreading but I thought I'd point it out.

Second, and this is up to interpretation, I'd leave out the entire family paragraph. It's touching and I think makes you a better person to show you're a good family man and that your family has good work ethic but it's a negative as far as showing dedication to law school.

I'm in the same boat with two children so I know how important they are and how raising them strengthens you and opens your eyes to alternative means of accomplishing goals but I think it's a mistake to show something that will take significant time away from study without any resume adding value.

Third I think you should do a major re-write on the second half. The first half I think is very well done and shows that you're a strong person that's got experience in the real world that will apply to the rigorous study of law but the 2nd half is disjointed and repetitive in my opinion.

I DO like the example in the second half about being an operations supervisor but I don't like that you said you lacked focus accademically. If your goal is to explain a bad grade within your personal statement then it might be acceptable. It doesn't seem to be the case here. I think it's a jarring negative and in my opinion it's a mistake to add it that way.

If you just take out that first sentence then I think that's a very strong paragraph.

Here's what I see in layout form of your PS.

1. Intro paragraph
 1a. good supporting history
 2a. good supporting history
 3a. good transition to reason for going to law school
 4a. good discussion of the process of your thoughts toward law school
 5a. excellent tie in to paragraph one and a well thought out goal. I'd lengthen and deepen the goal
 6a. bad family tie in and a useless paragraph in my opinion.
 7a. bad reference to academic weakness followed by an excellent example of your past achievements.
 8a. good references to why you would be a good student but it's not in any kind of order within the PS.
 9a. very weak closing paragraph with no lasting impression. It needs to be longer and to summarize the entire work.

If it was me I'd go

1. Intro
   a. same as before
   b. I'd put the previous 7a here as a strong statement.

2. Process by which you analyzed going to law school
   2a.I'd put the previous 4a. here which I liked as a paragraph.
   2b.I'd go with 8a here which goes with your thinking process when making the decision.

3. I'd go with a statement about your work history here. It's very strong and I think makes a good timeline type PS.
   3a. I'd put 5a. here and I think it's the strongest point in your PS if you leave out that bit about the academic weakness in the past.
   3b. I might add a bit about how work values have always been important in your family but leave out how your kids are important to you.

4. closing statement summarizing the PS, I think it should be twice as long as your previous one, highlighting once again your strengths in work experience and work ethic.

I hope this helps.

Law School Admissions / Re: Why do YOU want to go to law school?
« on: December 13, 2004, 01:43:56 PM »
I want to go to law school because I want to make a difference. I'm a tree hugger/nerd type and I want to do something to help with the environment.

In particular I want to get involved with greasing the wheels of new technology. I want to go in to intellectual property and environmental law and hopefully get a job with a hydrogen production developer or something in the field of fuel cell technology.

I know that sounds more of an engineering ambition but I believe that I can do more good figuring out the legal side of the problem than the engineering. Especially since I'm not all that creative and can't imagine making that leap of faith that great and patentable engineers make to come up with truly innovative inventions.

I can imagine researching the laws that regulate hydrogen storage and production as well as doing patent research so that the engineers that come up with great ideas will be able to implement them.

I love the research involved with being a lawyer. I like getting every scrap of information and putting it all together in a coherent package. If the money never comes with the job that's ok with me and I don't mind the hours so much as long as I'm not used just as a billing body.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: In my opinion...
« on: December 11, 2004, 09:26:48 AM »
I've done all the old tests as practice and never finished the whole games section under real time constraints but I did finish the Dec. test. Maybe I just got lucky but it seemed like the easiest games section ever to me.

I hope it was just that I got smarter at the right time.

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