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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: In at UNC !!!!!
« on: March 09, 2005, 09:40:10 PM »
Didn't say easy to identify with.  Said doesn't falsify his associations with the everyday man.

Please. You actually think any real "everday" farmers associate with Bush 'cause he puts on a big belt and clears the brush? If it weren't so sad, the notion of Bush the common man, of Bush the outsider would be truly hysterical. Elite prep schools, Yale, Harvard, grandpa's a senator and, oh yeah, daddy was president. But I'm a Washington outsider, just a common man of the land. Did you know that Bush is afraid of horses? That there are no real farm animals or crops on the ranch? I suppose that to the extent that your everday farmer considers the clearing of the brush to be crucial to his/her identity, then his or her associoation with Bush isn't "falsified."

Meanwhile, no matter what you think of Edwards as either a person or politician, the fact of the matter is that he made his way through life with absolutely none of the advantages that guaranteed that Bush would prosper. To the extent that Edwards talks to the families of manufacturing industry workers who are trying to send their first child to college, he's speaking from real, accurate life experiences.

Whether or not Edwards was a good senator, whether you view his legal career as ambulance chasing that helped bankrupt doctors or as giving a voice to the little guy against the big corporations, and whether he is/was qualified to be president or vice president is certainly a debatable matter on the merits. But the notion that, based on their life experiences, Bush's association with ordinary Americans is more real than Edwards's association is truly laughable. Of course that's different than what folks perceive. I don't dispute that Bush is seen by many as a fairly ordinary guy (though I don't think this is based on the widespread belief amongst farmers that Bush is one of them)--he's been very successful in projecting that image. It just doesn't have the slightest bit of truth to it in reality.

Edit: I should add that while I am not a Bush supporter, I don't think his persona is fraud. Like I don't think he's secretly this high society, word-parsing, nuanced, intellectually complex person. He is who is he is and I say in all seriousness that he does have some admirable personal qualities. But that doesn't change the fact that he's always had the luxury to be able to take on whatever identity he feels like (i.e. skull and bones member, failed congressional candidate, failed oil man, failed corporate executive, the perfect last name to front the Rangers' ownership group, etc.).

I'm from the deep South, grew up in a trailer park, and know his target demographic very well.  The fact is, appearances on TV 'at the ranch' in his pickup truck, and especially his appearances at NASCAR events, are sufficient to convince common people he is one of their own.  Your points above sound eerily similar to some of the points I tried to raise to my neighbors back home, but they could not be swayed.  Kerry was the 'ol rich guy' while Bush was the commoner.  Odd, huh?

I too am a huge Edwards fan, but his showing in the VP debate was pretty average.  I was a little dissapointed, Cheney did a great job of painting him as a young and inexperienced candidate.

Why don't you just ask them why they sent it?  I've posted that article many times on this board, and I think it is important for any student to know what they are getting themselves into.  You have no basis for assuming ill intentions without further information.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Average hours worked
« on: February 22, 2005, 06:36:28 AM »
Here's a good breakdown.  Kinda scary, though:

Go read the study for yourself if you haven't already.  It can be found at:

He isolates the entering credentials, and shows that minority students that are matched with their peers (ie those that have similar entering credentials) perform as well as expected.  Entering credentials are just as effective at predicting success of minority students as white/asian students.  This of course means that those with low entering credentials tend to not perform as well.

I am interested in Liu's rebuttal, should be interesting.  The Sanders study is pretty thorough.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: '06er Roll Call
« on: February 21, 2005, 12:32:34 PM »
Oh, that's no big deal.  I turn 25 in a month, and at first I let this bother me, esp. concerning putting off LS for a year.  Now I'm thinking it is a great idea, If I still want to enroll in a year than I'll know for sure this is the right decision.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: '06er Roll Call
« on: February 21, 2005, 11:22:42 AM »
Don't procrastinate anymore!  You guys are in the enviable position of still being able to raise your GPA.  I would love to sign up for another 2-3 semesters of leisure studies right now.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Who are the '06ers here?
« on: February 21, 2005, 10:08:12 AM »
I'm in the same boat.  I know it is the smarter thing to do in my situation, but is has been tough resisting the urge to throw together a last minute application, 'just to see'.  At least we should know EVERYTHING about the process by then!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UF law
« on: February 20, 2005, 01:11:34 PM »
I really hate to tell you this, but if you can get into FSU's law program you'll probably have a better post law school experience. I was looking at statistics for law schools awhile ago and I happened upon a statistical set of average salaries for different law schools for graduating law students. FSU was ranked with Harvard and Yale at over $125,000, UF was at about $73,000. Their rankings, for some reason, put FSU at 70 something, and UF at 43, but nothing seems to bear that out. I have a friend (former D.C. lawyer who just retired to Florida) who did some checking around with regional Lawyer friends and he told me that with similar gpas, law review etc. they would take the FSU graduate everytime, no exceptions. Everyone he talked to said this, and I have no idea why. Bottom line, there is something about FSU that you just might want to consider.

Superius and any others looking at UF, please completely disregard the above. 

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Big Law to Public Interest Career?
« on: February 16, 2005, 11:33:53 AM »
I'm highly skeptical of the 'golden handcuffs' line of reasoning.  I think if you work in a firm for a while you gain exposure to a lot of areas that you can only read about beforehand.  Developing this knowledge and those contacts seems like a great idea, especially while making good money.  I suppose it takes a lot of work to develop these goals while working crazy hours, but if you can't hack it, you probably weren't meant for PI work anyways.

I am interested to see so many people thinking along the same lines as me, but I guess it's not really surprising.  Cool link Giffy.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Why is Testmasters better than Powerscore?
« on: February 14, 2005, 07:34:32 AM »
If no one here has any input on PS or TM instructors in your area, you should check with the pre-law societies at the local universities.

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