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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Anyone took/wants to take patent bar exam?
« on: March 30, 2005, 08:33:27 PM »
Personally I think that if you had all that extra time that needs to be spent listening to the DVDs, they would help(Read: Can't hurt). I saw every DVD for the first 15 lectures, and then stopped due to the June 2nd bombshell, and on average there HAS been a drop in grades. Possible explanations are that more material is being absorbed (went from 4-5 modules a week to 8-10 a week. Also the material in some modules is definitely more difficult for me than in others.

One of my main worries is that there is really no good data on how well people do with this study kit. Will let you know how it goes - done with 30 modules.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Anyone took/wants to take patent bar exam?
« on: March 16, 2005, 08:05:08 PM »
Good luck on the test!

I got the DVD version and it takes me between 2-3 hours to thoroughly go through each module. Can't imagine how all of this could stay in someone's head after a couple of months but somehow it happens. About 24% done with it - anyone who wants to do it, beware of the time investment.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Anyone took/wants to take patent bar exam?
« on: March 16, 2005, 07:44:36 AM »
This is all wonderful news for all of us who planned to take the patent bar during the summer :)

So now instead of doing 5 modules a week I'm going to have to do 2 modules a day. Which translates into a nice day of working and then studying for 5 hours at home.

Does anyone know if the taped lectures actually help? It sounds like this just follows the regular college format of read the material(not like anyone does), listen to it and then do problems, but hearing the same thing right after you read it is pretty boring like MasterK said.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Anyone else going to Fordham in the fall?
« on: March 14, 2005, 10:52:37 AM »
Oh come on.  As a Manhattanite, I can say that you probably won't need your car...and that commuting itself is pretty inexpensive.  $76/month.  The commute costs itself is gonna be the least of your financial worries, and not having a car will save you a ton.

I never said anything about the car which i'm selling prior to going there, but it's all a matter of preference - that $76 is a week's worth of food, not to mention the time saved on the commute. Over 3 years that's 3 Grand that you don't have to pay back, but hey, to each his own.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Anyone else going to Fordham in the fall?
« on: March 09, 2005, 08:31:23 AM »
Yup, looks like there's 2 things to know about them:

1) Pretty long distance - I e-mailed the apt manager and they said it was something like 25-40 minutes to get to lincoln center from the apartments. Central Park's in the way, and there's no direct route, so you're looking to transfer at least once. There's a bus on (79th?) that's pretty close to the apartments, but you still have to transfer.

2) When I called the admissions office to find out if it was possible to get into one of those, she said they usually reserve them for upper-class students.

But hey, if you can get into one, that's a pretty nice location/apartment for that kind of money. For me the turn-off would be having to pay for an apt in manhattan AND having to pay for the commute.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Anyone else going to Fordham in the fall?
« on: March 08, 2005, 07:47:31 AM »
I just enrolled in Fordham. Now just to finish up all the auxiliary paperwork...

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Anyone took/wants to take patent bar exam?
« on: March 03, 2005, 06:31:08 AM »
How much time did you spend preparing and what part helped you the most? (reading material, practice problems, etc.)

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Anyone else going to Fordham in the fall?
« on: February 22, 2005, 08:44:26 AM »
Just submitted my fin.aid - hopefully Fordham is feeling generous.

How many others are seriously considering attending?

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Anyone took/wants to take patent bar exam?
« on: February 22, 2005, 08:37:59 AM »
I'm about 10% through the PATBAR course, and Reindeers is right on the money.

1) So far it really has nothing to do with the law, just the USPTO's regulations stemming from the law. It is very boring (as opposed to something you would wake up thinking about) but there are some interesting topics, read below.

2) There is a heavy emphasis on submitting correct materials and timelines for submission. Submitting the correct materials is extremely boring - who would want to memorize every paper that needs to be submitted in every single situation? However the timelines get very interesting since you begin to see the ambiguous side of the business where (i imagine) most patent lawyers make their living. Who has priority, foreign/domestic, etc.

3) I'm doing about the same as Reindeers, maybe a little less than 80%. Personally i'd have to spend significantly more time to better that grade (you know how it goes, sometimes the difference between an A and a B is much greater than the difference between a B and C).

4) The course requires discipline - it's not that easy to sit down for 2-3 hours a day and study for the patent bar considering the material is not very exciting. Good thing it's winter up here in Syracuse! But seriously, i'm working full time and to come home at 6 and start doing 3 hours of studying is not very pleasant, but oh well.

5) Does PATBAR prepare you for the bar exam? Won't really know until i take the test, but it seems intelligently put together, but not as structured as a regular college course. My guess is that there are so many places where to start this study that the author picked the most logical starting place for him. Doesn't look like there's a great base of information that you must know before moving forward, just a bunch of rules. If you go to PATBAR's website, you'll see some kind of statement that they don't publish success rates for applicants because it all depends on how much they study, etc. At first that looks like an excuse because the numbers are probably not as good as those live courses. But when thinking about it, the author is absolutely right, in this case since it's a take home course, your success depends only on your willingness to sit down and study.

Hope this is helpful somewhat...

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Intellectual property rankings?
« on: January 14, 2005, 02:34:21 PM »
I totally agree with your point if you go practice at a law firm. And now i'm beginning to wonder about my point's validity considering that only about 5%(?) of law students go straight into industry after graduation. And the amount of IP lawyers must be minute.


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