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Stanford U / Re: What's it like?
« on: March 04, 2003, 04:15:33 PM »
I had some of the same concerns, coming from the Northeast.  This really is a nice place to live, especially since it almost never gets below 50 in the winter daytime.  The students here come from a wide range of places, so you wouldn't be the only new Californian.

As far as competitiveness (if that's even a word)?  Doesn't exist.  The 1L class right now is gaining a reputation as a bunch of gunners, but from what I know of the 2L class, everybody is pretty cool.  No one talks about grades, since everyone knows that we're all a bunch of brainiacs/nerds anyway.  Stanford has a reasonable curve (read grade inflation) and most of the professors clump, so there are few standouts.  No one knows who is tops in the class (they have some sort of award for the top GPA, but I don't think they tell anyone who got it other than the winner).  Cold calling (the socratic method) only exists in half the 1L classes, and even then it's pretty much painless as long as it's not a visiting professor (visiting professors go to town on you, but Stanford faculty are a bunch of fluffy pillows once they've been here for a few years).  After the first year, cold calling is practically non-existant.  In sum: this place is a breeze.  Sun all day long, smiles all round.

Having said that, free time is a luxury.  I spend more time on the golf course (twilight rate: 10 dollars for nine holes on one of the top 100 course in the country) than in the library, but apparantly that's not normal.  A lot of people go on trips and do things in the city during the weekends, so leisure is not a total unknown.  Just make sure to befriend cool people who don't study 24/7.

Stanford is also a great name to have on the resume when looking for jobs.  The on-campus interview process for 2Ls is amazing, and pretty much everyone gets a job in the city of their choice, though it's not as glorious as a few years ago.  

Finally, aspirations for law review if there's any interest there: it's not based on grades or a writing competition like a lot of schools.  It's based on a rather gruelling editing exercise.  In other words, you don't have to worry about it until May.  For me, that was a major plus.

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General Board / Re: what's it like...
« on: March 04, 2003, 04:30:59 PM »
It's what you make of it.  I know people who study five-six hours a day.  I know people who study only on the weekends.  I study only on Tuesdays.

Most people study two or three hours every night.  Most people are easy going, normal types.  Most people actually do things other than study when they get the chance.  If your school has a golf course, then most people will play a lot of golf.  Or maybe not, you never know.

Grades for the first year are critical for getting a law firm job your second summer, so it's very front loaded.  After first year, law school is a waiting game.  It's also possible to learn stuff too.  And play golf.

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General Board / Re: is law school really that tough?
« on: March 04, 2003, 04:41:47 PM »
It depends on the school.  At a top tier school, it's very difficult to differentiate yourself from the mean.  Everyone is a frickin' rocket scientist.  Sometimes literally.  Further down the prestige ladder, differentiating yourself from the mean becomes absolutely critical for getting big firm jobs.  So either way, it's tough.

Plus, in rare circumstances, a professor will kill you with words when you haven't absorbed the material.  It's not just reading, you have to understand the junk too.  Unlike college, you'll have to read everything at least twice or risk abject humiliation in front of your peers.  Well, not really, but you get the point.

The hardest thing about law school is that there is often a forced mean, and where you fall respective to the mean can often be determined based on whether or not the prof had his coffee before grading your exam.  You can study for days and fall below average, or study for a hour and nail it.

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General Board / Re: typing exams?
« on: March 04, 2003, 04:24:05 PM »
Typing exams on computer is practically required for us.  No one can possibly write fast enough to keep up with the typers.  Every year somebody's computer crashes, and they just have to pick up a paper booklet and start writing.  Or they could just restart the computer, assuming they remember to save often.  I don't know what that wacky program for locking the hard drive is.  We're on the honor system here.

In sum: typing is a huge advantage over writing.  If you're on a curve, and most of the people write, and you have the opportunity to type, I say type.  You'll clean house.

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Law School Applications / trouble at Berkeley?
« on: July 10, 2005, 04:45:20 AM »
In the Berkeley case, the law student alleges she was sexually molested two years ago by the former dean of UC Berkeley's Boalt law school, John P. Dwyer, after she passed out following a night of drinking with Dwyer and other students. Dwyer has acknowledged acting inappropriately but said the incident was consensual. He left Boalt in January
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-04-22-calif-professor-dating_x.htm

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Law School Applications / Re: Am i psycho?
« on: July 06, 2005, 04:11:31 AM »
Thanks, I guess i'm scared to say who i am. my sister doesn't even know i exist and both her parents are still together and married, she knows about all the other siblings apart from me, i guess i feel like my psrent will hate me once they realize i contacted my sister.
 i don't have a phone number, address, or e-mail address for this parent, only a p.o box.
 i know that dont want contact with me. each letter says they want us to meet but it hasn't happened yet and i know that said parent has been in my area on many occasions. I found out I have another sister that lives in same area as me but she is older, not sure where she lives but somewhere in same town. i dont think she knows about me either.
 i guess maybe i should just leave well alone, i have written parent  5 times and have still not heard back.
 i go to mailbox everyday anxiously, its sad, kinda like waiting for ls letters, only the cycle never ends for me. i'm always hoping, looking, praying and a letter never comes. i think im hurting myself more this way.
 thanks for answering me though, it really hurts sometimes

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Law School Applications / Am i psycho?
« on: July 06, 2005, 03:22:58 AM »
Ok here goes I never had a relationship with one of my parents, they were never around. This parent has other children , older and younger than me that I have never met. I have never met this parent but have done some sleuthing and seen a photo of a younger sister. I used to get about 1 letter a year from this parent and haven't heard from them in 2 years.
 I feel abandoned and unworthy, especially as this parent really seems to love this little sister. I now have this sisters e-mail address, she is 20 now. I was planning on e-mailing her as a long lost friend just to find out more about her and our shared parent. I don't think this sister even knows I exist. I know her other parent knows about me but I don't think I have ever been mentioned. I was planning on asking in e-mail if sister had any siblins and seeing what they say.
 Here's the thing I know if they say no, I will be even more hurt than I already am. Should I even bother? How do I gt over the fact that this parent doesn't love me or care about me and has never even met me. Most probably doesn't even know what I look like. How do I get over this. This has been hurting me for a long time and I need to get over it b4 I start law school.
 I don't have money to see a shrink
 Serious advice only please

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Law School Applications / Re: SOUND ADVICE NEEDED!!!
« on: June 28, 2005, 11:21:10 PM »
Actually, you may want to look at Chapman University School of Law a rising third tier school. The university is already pretty highly regarded in Orange County (OC), home to Newport Beach and Anaheim, and is dubbed the USC of the OC. Furthermore, they are dumping so much money into their business and economics programs that are on the rise. Check it out and you may like it.

http://www.chapman.edu/law/

did they pay you to say that?

Chapman has no such reputation in the OC, and it is certainly not the USC of the OC. 

The majority of the firms in the OC are IP and Real Estate/Trust centered.

Original poster, take the GRE and actually prepare.  Then go to Wharton, you'd make a much better consultant, then with a t3-4 JD/MBA.  Buisnesses don't hire legal consultants they hire law firms, unless there is so niche market I am unaware of.


LMFAO   thanks for the laugh, that was funny...I also agree, Chapman is NOT the USC of the OC, i'm still laughing

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Law School Applications / Re: Chances for Georgetown PT
« on: June 28, 2005, 11:17:38 PM »
are u urm?

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Law School Applications / Who will get into the highest school??
« on: June 28, 2005, 11:09:21 PM »
Best friend and I are just curious if you think higher lsat/ lower gpa or Lower lsat/higher gpa will win out. We both want to go to the same school and then open a practice together, however if one of us gets into a much better school than the other then obviously they will go to that school.

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