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Southwestern doesn't sound much different from any other part time program... 

There are several schools which will offer part time spots to full time applicants who otherwise wouldn't be accepted.  These are students who often have slightly lower numbers and will benefit from having a lighter course load. 

I understand that the OP is upset that they have less time to study due to thier full time "responsible" job, but most law students had full time jobs before starting.  We quit them to go to school.  While lots of people do have to work to support families, maybe scaling back to a "trivial" job in order to improve your academic performance IS the "responsible" thing to do.

Law school in an investment.  Almost everyone has to sacrifice something to be here.  It isn't supposed to be easy, and complaining that you have it harder than your neighboor doesn't really help you to do any better.

Current Law Students / Re: full scholarship
« on: July 29, 2005, 02:42:45 PM »
My numbers are lower than yours and my scholarship covers most of tuition...  I'm going to need to come up with three thousand dollars for the year but I got a grad assistant position which makes up the difference.

Current Law Students / Re: Good LSAT, Bad GPA
« on: June 27, 2005, 02:32:42 PM »
I think it really all depends on what YOU consider a "decent" law school. 

There are those who think anything below T14 isn't worth the time and money, and there are those who are perfectly happy to go to a second or third tier school with good local prospects...  It just depends on your perspective.

You will definitely get in somewhere.  Applications seem to be a gamble no matter what your numbers.  Also, I think it's worth noting that the people who post on these boards (if everyone is telling the truth) don't seem to be representative of the application pool at large.  All is not lost if you don't have a 4.0/180! 

Unfortunately, graduate GPA doesn't seem to count for a whole lot. 

That said, in my esteemed opinion if you send out enough applications you'll probably get in to a mid to lower T1.  If not, definitely a respectable T2.   :D

Good luck with the application process!

I'll admit I don't know much about NYLS...  but I do think that you are better off with the degree than without one. 

Your prospects coming out of NYLS may not be as impressive as those of someone getting thier degree from a T1, but it just means you need to work harder.  Get in that top 10% and you won't have to worry so much.  And your prospects with any law school degree are still better than someone who doesn't have an upper level degree at all!

If you do decide to scrap the law school idea for this year and apply again in the fall, what will you be doing in the meantime to improve your chances of being accepted?  If you don't do anything worthwhile with this year, the same schools that turned you down now will probably still ding you later...

Finally, I know there are many people on this board who seem to be in this for the money.  And of course the potential for a six-figure salary is a draw for anyone.  But starting at $60,000 certainly isn't shabby.  Most of my friends coming out of undergrad are making between $25,000 and $40,000 and they have NYU debt! (and most of them have NYC rent to pay as well).  When my parents got married (given this was 23 years ago) they had a combined income of under $30,000... but they made do.  Will you be living the high life on $60,000?  Probably not.  Will you be living comfortably?  More than likely, especially if you aren't set on staying in New York City...

My opinion is: 

When making this decision, don't worry too much about the money.  We're only on this earth for some eighty-odd years if we're really doesn't matter that much in the long run.  Worst case scenario: your kids pay it back 50 years from now with your life insurance money! 

Go to work hard and learn something.   Go for the intellectual stimulation.  Don't deprive yourself of what could be a great educational experience because you are hung up on issues of cost or prestige.

Case Western Reserve / Re: Laptops
« on: June 16, 2005, 09:01:03 AM »
Great to know, kenxc... Thanks!   :D

I got the Powerbook instead of the iBook because I wanted something small (I got the 12 inch) and minimum recommended requirements for school were 1.5 Ghz.  The iBook 12 inch only has 1.2 Ghz.  (Same specifications at Case, btw.)  I don't actually know enough about computers to know if it makes a difference, but I figured why take a chance - may as well go with thier recommendation.   

I have to say that I'm embarassed by how clueless I am about this stuff though...I work in IT!  You would think I'd have picked something up hanging out with tech people all day.  ::)

Case Western Reserve / Laptops
« on: June 15, 2005, 11:01:56 AM »
Hello!  I know this is a topic which has been addressed many, MANY times on the General Board, but I was curious if anyone is better informed than I...

What are the recomended laptops for law school at Case?  Looking at other posters it seems that other schools gave guidelines (specifications, no Apple, etc.). 

I found the specifications for the university in general, but not the law school. 

My real issue is that I have a newer Apple Powerbook, which I love, but if it isn't compatible with the school's software, I'll need a new laptop.

Any thoughts?

Case Western Reserve / Re: Attending in the Fall
« on: June 03, 2005, 08:51:19 AM »
Sorry I didn't respond in a more timely fashion.  Finals and moving home brought my internet access to a halt for a while...

My #'s: 3.48/168 

Case Western Reserve / Re: Attending in the Fall
« on: April 27, 2005, 11:55:53 PM »
The housing thing doesn't really affect me as I grew up in the area and will probably live at home for first year...

But, for people coming from other areas... Housing depends a lot on a few quesitons:

1.  Do you have a car?
2.  How far are you willing to drive each morning?
3.  How concerned are you with price?

Some things to keep in mind... 

You may want to live close because you don't have a car... My only advice to that is GET A CAR!  Seriously. You need one.  Cleveland is a driver's city and public transportation is almost non-existant. 

Apartments near the school (Cleveland Hts, University Hts, Shaker...) are reasonable but if you drive a little further out it can get a LOT cheaper.  I have friends living in Parma and Rocky River for $400-$500 instead of the $800 to be near school.  Plus if you get a $400 one-bedroom you have your own place for the same money!

If you don't mind a drive (twenty minutes to a half hour) Lakewood is probably the best Cleveland suburb for rental properties.  Nearly the entire city rents rather than owns thier homes and there are many more apartment buildings than in most of the Cleveland area. 

If you can get a few people together it may be worth renting a house.  It can actually work out to be cheaper.

I don't know if any of this is helpful...  I've lived in Cleveland my entire life (except for undergrad) and figured as I'm familiar with the city I'd offer my opinion.  So if anyone has any questions related to the location, Cleveland, stuff to do... just let me know!

Current Law Students / Re: Dating while in law school
« on: April 27, 2005, 07:47:53 PM »
Thought I'd offer my two cents...

Frankly I don't care who my classmates choose to date, party with or take home...that's up to them.  If a guy wants to date someone six years younger  he can go ahead and it's not really a threat to me.  It seems like there are plenty of guys out there who are interested in women thier own age and so we female law students should just date them instead...

Or do what I do and find a boyfriend who can offer a social life outside of the people I see on a day to day basis and helps me to think about life outside of law school...

That said, if any of the guys out there are going to NYU you are in luck!  It's my undergrad and word on the street is that the law school is one of the best places on campus to find strait men... 

Case Western Reserve / Re: Attending in the Fall
« on: April 27, 2005, 12:19:25 AM »
Going to Case in the fall... and glad to have finally made a decision! 

Weird story though:  Deposits came due in early April, and I still hadn't heard about money, so I sent my deposit to another school.  Then last week one of the admissions guys called and said there was a mistake in my file and I actually have a significant scholarship!  This was my top choice, so I'm thrilled.

At the same time, should I worry that this is indicative of how the administration operates?

Despite all that, I look forward to seeing you in the fall!

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