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I had a long discussion with a good friend about this, here's what i found.  Hope it helps.

One of few reasons why Southwestern has gone down in ranking is due to their employment rate after 9 months, which is at 85%.  I heard that their new dean said part of the reason why it went down is due to his refusal to take part in these agreements between law school deans, where one dean agrees to give the other school the highest evaluation in exchance for the same.  Those local schools not participating in that agreement would receive the lowest possible evaluation.  Pepperdine is notorious for this.  In addition, he also stated that some law schools employ their students at their own library at the nine month mark after graduation in order to increase the percentage of those employed, thus providing US NEWS with a good statistic.  Moreover, some schools throw away surveys completed by their alumni if the school finds them unfavorable.  Thier new dean, as opposed to their old, has refused to take part of this US NEWS game that Pepperdine has mastered. Instead, they are focusing more in hiring new faculty, establishing two new clinics and improving their image in the legal community.

They have the 2nd largest alumni base in the Southern California region (as they are the 2nd oldest school in L.A.)--which helps a lot of their students land jobs.  Their salary statistics are comparable to LLS and Pepperdine, as well. 

Good luck

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Hi, I recently was admitted to Pepperdine law, and while it is one of my top choices, i am yet undecided, and perhaps hesitant to choose Pepperdine.  You see, I am a minority student and was shocked to discover how *white* Pepperdine was compared to SW or Loyola, when i visited.  I mean even though diversity shouldn't matter much, it does to me personally, especially coming from UCLA.  I also noticed that US NEWS has a diversity rankings, and every Los Angeles school is in that ranking system, including Loyola, SW, UCLA, USC except for Pepperdine.  Does Pepperdine not care about diversity?  This really worries me.  I'd really like to hear your perspective on this, thanks!

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Hi, I recently was admitted to Pepperdine law, and while it is one of my top choices, i am yet undecided, and perhaps hesitant to choose Pepperdine.  You see, I am a minority student and was shocked to discover how *white* Pepperdine was compared to SW or Loyola, when i visited.  I mean even though diversity shouldn't matter much, it does to me personally, especially coming from UCLA.  I also noticed that US NEWS has a diversity rankings, and every Los Angeles school is in that ranking system, including Loyola, SW, UCLA, USC except for Pepperdine.  Does Pepperdine not care about diversity?  This really worries me.  I'd really like to hear your perspective on this, thanks!


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Wait List / Re: Chapman Tier 3 - Will this affect the waitlist?
« on: March 28, 2008, 01:38:00 PM »
SW is a much more established school with a MUCH larger alumni base.  Coming from a Tier 3 or 4 school really sucks, so it helps to come from a school where the alumni are everywhere in So Cal.  Plus, don't expect SW to stay in T4--it's been a T3 for so long now.

Don't let US NEWS decide what school you should attend.  good luck

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I think they do have the 3rd tier and 4th tier ranked!  For example, two of last year's 3rd tiers, Southern Ill and Southwestern are the top 4th tier schools, listed as one of the first schools in the tier 4th rankings.  In the tier 3, newbies like Chapman are on the bottom.  So it does make sense that they have actually ranked them without assigning a score.

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Law School Rankings / Re: US 2009 Rankings 60-100 scan?
« on: March 27, 2008, 12:29:22 PM »
How about third and fourth tier?

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: POSSIBLE RANKINGS HOAX
« on: March 27, 2008, 12:28:06 PM »
JAWILLIAMSON, can you please provide a copy of the third and fourth tier schools?

Its hard to believe that after 70 some years that Southwestern is now 4th Tier, and behind Chapman. 

Thanks!

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