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I was planning on reading a commercial outline (Emmanuel's, Gilbert's) in addition to the assigned cases/textbook reading. My question though is: Is it better to read the commercial outline section before or after the assigned case readings? I heard some people say before (to get a good understanding of the broader issue) but I think it would be helpful to fight with the stuff on my own at first. What do people think?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Vanderbilt's multiple LSAT policy
« on: July 04, 2005, 04:07:35 AM »
Ummm...not for me. I got in with a 155/164, and I'm not a URM (if you want details message me). There's no way Vandy would have accepted me with my average score, so it seems they do make exceptions.

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3.67/155/164 non-urm, in at Vandy.

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Law School Applications / Re: Cornell Miracles??
« on: June 27, 2005, 04:43:41 PM »
Not to be rude, but it's gonna be very very tough for you. I had a 164 and did about everything you can ever imagine to get in (including applying twice in a row) - I got waitlisted all the time. My guess is that unless you're a minority, your chances with a 163 are probably something like 5%. If you really wanna go to Cornell you might consider retaking. That said, you never know unless you try. But reaslize your chances are very small.

     Thanks for the input.  I totally believe in being realistic.  Are you a traditional age student, though?  Some people seem to think that if you are nontrad with a lot of WE, it might make a difference.


I'm not a traditional age student, so admittedly I cannot really say how that will affect your chances. It will certainly help, the question is how much. I had a few soft factors that I thought would help: I'm an international student, applied for a double degree program that specifically required fluency in my native language, went to a top 10 college in the States, finished in the top 10%, had strong recommendations from named chair professors (and Cornell alumni), wrote them a gazillion letters and additional essays, AND had an interview. Oh, I also had a 164. Never made it past the waitlist. So much about soft factors. But hey, that's the game. Maybe you've got more luck. Def. apply, I wish you all the best  (sounds a little sarcastic but is sincere  :) ). 

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: How long to kick the LSD habit?
« on: June 27, 2005, 07:46:35 AM »
Hey, after reading this post, I realize I may have come across as a little too negative on your chances for Cornell. Lgirl is right, you never know. However, of course you also have the opposite outcome, namely people who put everything they've got into an application for a particular school and still don't get in. I know someone like that...  ;) I guess I just  don't want you to get your hopes up too high and then be disappointed. On the other hand, I got into a great school that's only slightly lower-ranked than Cornell, therefore I think if you put in a lot of effort you will certainly get into a good school (possibly top 20). Good luck!  :)

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Law School Applications / Re: XOXO
« on: June 27, 2005, 07:35:50 AM »
xoxo is a true internet message board; it has an old school community of people who enjoy shock humor, offending people and pissing them off. it's about 60% entertainment and 40% actual info. the info is good with respect to t14s, especially if you want the perspective of students who actually go to these schools. and the traffic can't be beat, more than 6500 posts a day.

on the other hand, some people dont like its vibe, and that's fine.


Except that there's a difference between making fun of people (which can be funny) and saying things that aren't funny but deeply offensive to other people and should not come out of the mouth of any educated person (actually, any person). Agreed on the information part though. I'd say it's more like 20% information, 40 pointless bs, and 40% disgusting stuff.

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Law School Applications / Re: Cornell Miracles??
« on: June 27, 2005, 07:29:28 AM »
Not to be rude, but it's gonna be very very tough for you. I had a 164 and did about everything you can ever imagine to get in (including applying twice in a row) - I got waitlisted all the time. My guess is that unless you're a minority, your chances with a 163 are probably something like 5%. If you really wanna go to Cornell you might consider retaking. That said, you never know unless you try. But reaslize your chances are very small.

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Law School Applications / Re: XOXO
« on: June 24, 2005, 11:33:15 AM »
This board doesn't ban it either, it is just tucked away into a forgotten corner and ignored.  But it does still exist.  Will you be deleting your account here then?

I haven't seen it on this board (though I haven't checked this one as often as I used to either). If it would reach xoxo dimensions, yes I would delete my account, even if that means losing potentially useful information.

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Law School Applications / Re: XOXO
« on: June 24, 2005, 11:26:21 AM »
XOXO is not that bad, you all to grow a thicker skin.

It's not about growing a thick skin. I used to post on xoxo in the past, but decided to refuse to add my name to a board that frequently displays antisemitic and racist threads. If it wasn't for the occasional useful information I wouldn't even read it. Some of what people post there is truly appaling, and I'm not supporting a board that does not ban that kind of behavior.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Cornell or Vanderbilt?
« on: April 08, 2005, 04:17:38 AM »
Eva, is Vanderbilt really better for DC? That would be great news. I'm going to Vanderbilt and have been very upset for not getting in to Cornell until now. I want to work in DC though. Would greatly appreciate your reply.

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