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ok that give better outlook into your sittuion...I think they mean the whole class...and I look like the schools have those requirements because they know some people could lose their scholarships ...if you are worry about job placement Iowa or Wisconsin would be better option than Depaul...law school are ranking three differnt ways...national (1-14) regional(it depends on the numbers) and local...I would rank Depaul as local school meaning you could find a job in IL but hard outisde...if you went to Iowa or Wisconsin there is Chicago but Minnesota markets...I am from Minnesota...and there are some great law firms...I looked at all of your section of schools and you might have hard working in DC and New York ...maybe not if you went to Pittsburg



Thanks for the input! Any thought on Santa Clara and its job placement?

I actually talked to a 3L at Iowa some days ago, and she sounded a little depressed. It seems all she cares now is 'location, location, location'. She said she cared too much about rankings when she was 0L, and later found not so much difference. Now DePaul and Santa Clara both look good to her.


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DePaul $25,000/year newable based on GPA 3.30+. It's more money and the requirement is easier than Santa Clara, right? i guess 3.30 at DePaul might be around top 40%.



This depends on what DePaul's cruve is, if they curve to 3.0 at 3.3o is going to be about top 20% or so, if they cruve lower it gets worse, curve higher it gets better. Do a search on thier webside for "grade curve"



I looked at LSN earlier:
GPA (Class of 2009)
75th GPA:   3.58
Median GPA:   3.34
GPA:   3.02

so I thought 3.30 is like top 40%


now from DePaul student handbook:
First-Year Grade Curve
The College of Law faculty adopted the following mandatory grade curve that applies to all
first-year courses:
A 10%-15%
B+ 20%-25%
B 25%-30%
C+ 20%-25%
C or below 15%-20%

that looks like 3.30 would be top 25%? now i'm a little confused... 25% or 40%, which is closer?

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why? does it matter  ::)

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: DePaul Bound! Anyone else?
« on: April 02, 2009, 02:18:46 AM »
how is DePaul among all the schools in Chicago? how does it compare to IIT?

i know DePaul has a good IP program. is it good enough to get IP jobs nationwide?

i would mind practicing in Chicago. it's a nice place. but does it provide many opportunities? seems much less than NYC, DC or CA.

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seems i should pass this one.

my other options:
Santa Clara $14,000 renewable in top 25% of the class.
the 'class' really means the whole class, not a section, right? i heard some school would put the students with scholarships in one section then many of them would lose their scholarships later.

DePaul $25,000/year newable based on GPA 3.30+. It's more money and the requirement is easier than Santa Clara, right? i guess 3.30 at DePaul might be around top 40%.

both of them have decent IP programs (within top 11?) I'm not 100% sure that I would practice IP law, but it's certainly an option as I have an engineering degree.


and others:
Iowa, Wisconsin, no $. they are the highest ranked schools i got in hand, however i couldn't imagine myself working in either Iowa or Wisc. they might have a shot at Chicago. well... Chicago itself doesn't seem to be a big market compared to NYC, DC, CA. i would hate the feelings of being jobless and stuck in the middle of nowhere if that happens.

Cincinnati, Houston, Case Western Reserve, Chicago-Kent, Pittsburg, Penn State, Northeastern. they all provide some money, say $10k-14k.

my biggest concern is job placement. not necessarily biglaw, but of course i want a decent job with decent pay.
so far since i don't have any top 20 in hand, i reckon that i should go for the location rather than the ranking. anybody share the same thought?
low debt would be a plus but far less important than the job prospect.

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St. John's with an annual tuition scholarship $35,000
renewable every year provided that "your cumulative average places you in the top half of your class".

is it worth going? god, the deposit deadline is Apr 1st, and it's $750!


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Where should I go next fall? / Iowa vs Wisconsin vs Others?
« on: March 31, 2009, 12:10:08 PM »
So far the two highest ranking schools I got are Iowa and Wisconsin. Which one should I choose?
My interest is in corporate law, and intellectual property is also an option, considering I have engineering education. In the future I might practice back in Asia, but I'm not sure if the US IP firms have much to do in Asian countries.


First of all, I'm still on two waitlists and several schools haven't responded. If I do accept any school, will they notify the other schools to end the review of my applications? (I remember that's the case with many Early Decisions...)


Iowa vs Wisconsin:

both are 'regional' law schools with job placement mostly in Midwest. I'm totally fine with working in Chicago if I could get a job there.

Madison seems more fun and closer to Chicago, but a lot Colder?
even though I suppose I wouldn't have much time to enjoy it, Madison looks more attractive with the tennis courts, shopping malls, the outlets within reach, and the shorter distance to the attractions of Chicago metro... I heard Iowa City is very boring? (well I'm not into parties so I was never into college towns.)

I'll pay full tuitions for both, around $33k. Any of them would charge in-state tuition from the 2nd year? anyway, this would affect my decision too much.

I'm an international student so I certainly would be happier on a more diversed and friendly campus.




some other options I have are:
Florida
Cincinnati
Baylor
Houston
Case Western Reserve
IIT (Chicago-Kent)
Lewis and Clark (OR)
Pittsburg
Penn State
Santa Clara
San Diego
DePaul U (IL)
Northeastern U (MA)
St. Jones (NYC)
Drexel

some of them provide financial aid. are these worth going?


I'm still dreaming of transferring to T14 or T20 after working hard in the 1st year. However, I hear 1L GPA is hard to predict, sometimes even random? So if I failed to transfer, staying in Iowa or Wisconsin and finishing the degree there sounds like a better option.

My bottom line is to get a decent job after graduation, hopefully around a nice metro area.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Iowa vs Wisconsin vs Others?
« on: March 31, 2009, 12:38:28 AM »
Btw my interest is in corporate law, and intellectual property is also an option, considering I have engineering education. Someday I might practice back in Asia, but I'm not sure if the US IP firms have much to do in Asian countries.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Iowa vs Wisconsin vs Others?
« on: March 31, 2009, 12:01:28 AM »
some other options I have are:
Florida
Cincinnati
Baylor
Houston
Case Western Reserve
IIT (Chicago-Kent)
Lewis and Clark (OR)
Pittsburg
Penn State
Santa Clara
San Diego
DePaul U (IL)
Northeastern U (MA)
St. Jones (NYC)
Drexel

some of them provide financial aid. are these worth going?


I'm still dreaming of transferring to T14 or T20 after working hard in the 1st year. However, I hear 1L GPA is hard to predict, sometimes even random? So if I failed to transfer, staying in Iowa or Wisconsin and finishing the degree there sounds like a better option.

My bottom line is to get a decent job after graduation, hopefully around a nice metro area.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Iowa vs Wisconsin vs Others?
« on: March 30, 2009, 11:41:48 PM »
So far the two highest ranking schools I got are Iowa and Wisconsin. Which one should I choose?

First of all, I'm still on two waitlists and several schools haven't responded. If I do accept any school, will they notify the other schools to end the review of my applications? (I remember that's the case with many Early Decisions...)

Iowa and Wisconsin are very similar:

both are 'regional' law schools with job placement mostly in Mid West (?) I'm totally fine with working in Chicago if I could get a job there.

the two schools are close to each other. Madison is more fun and closer to Chicago but a lot colder?
even though I suppose I wouldn't have much time to enjoy it, Madison looks more attractive with the shopping malls, the outlets nearby, and the shorter distance to the attractions of Chicago metro... I heard Iowa City is very boring? (well I'm not into parties so I was never into college towns.)

I'll pay full tuitions for both, around $33k. Any of them would charge in-state tuition from the 2nd year? anyway, this would affect my decision too much.

I'm an international student so I certainly would be happier on a more diversed and friendly campus.

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