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I'm sure you can definitely get into some T25 schools with that. To some extent it depends on what college you got that 3.55 at, too. And of course Teach for America's a huge soft factor. Apply early though! Hopefully you have all your applications in by now! If you haven't applied, and want another review of your PS and DS, just message me on here. Good luck!

1. I'm sorry for the late response. I only get e-mail notifications when someone messages me personally, but not when someone replies to my posts on a thread.

2. I want to know if she has taken, or is taking, any LSAT prep course? I would highly recommend taking an LSAT prep course (well) before she sits for the exam. I am not an expert on LSAT preparation, so I cannot give substantive advice as to how she should tailor her studying to best prepare for the exam, but I can say that time is a huge issue for everyone on the exam, not just her. This is why taking a prep course is so important, particularly for those people who also have to deal with growing up speaking a native language other than English. An LSAT prep course will help her develop techniques that will save precious time. So, once again, I highly recommend that she take an LSAT prep course--and practice as much as possible--if she hasn't already. Message me if financial reasons make it impossible to afford an LSAT courses, there are some resources out there for instances as such.

3. As for the discrepancy with her LSDAS GPA, I would work to resolve that as soon as possible. LSAC sometimes has a different GPA calculation rubric than one's degree-granting college.

4. When considering which schools to apply to, look at their applicant profile on LSAC's website. Look at more than just the LSAT/GPA chart. One technique I used that seemed to work for me when I was applying to law school years ago, was seeing how many people of my ethnicity were represented at the law school. I applied to law schools where students of my ethnicity were the most underrepresented, because--to the extent law schools even take race and ethnicity into account--being an applicant of a background that is significantly underrepresented is an advantage. (For example, if you are Cuban-American, and you apply to UMiami where many other Cuban-Americans apply and matriculate, the URM advantage can be less substantial than if you apply to a law school that has a much lower amount of Cuban-American applying and matriculating). Does that make sense?

5. If she plans to apply to Boston College Law School, or Boston-area law schools, we should get in touch so I can give more school-specific advice. With that said, attending tier 1 law schools that are far from the region one wishes to ultimately practice law should not necessarily be viewed as an impediment. Employers don't care so much about the location of the law school one attended as much as they care about a demonstrated commitment to permanently live and practice in the employer's region.

6. She may want to consider supplementing her personal statement with a diversity statement, (if adding such a statement would better explain the past circumstances that affect her performance). From my own experience, the difference between a personal statement and a diversity statement is that a diversity statement focuses more on the application process and how your special diverse background created special obstacles or circumstances that affect your candidacy to the law school. In contrast, your personal statement is a more general opportunity to personalize yourself on your application. If you can successfully incorporate both into one essay, then you don't need both. But in her case, and in the case of many other Latino/as who grew up speaking a language other than English, I would err on the side of writing a supplemental diversity statement.

7. As for whether or not to wait or take the LSAT now: I think over-preparation is better than under-preparation, so in that respect I would wait for the next cycle if I were feeling uncertain about my all-important LSAT score. One thing that I've heard other applicants doing with regards to the LSAT is actually going in to take the test and trying their hardest, but if they sense the test is going really bad--like worse than their practice tests--they cancel the score on the spot, rather than get stuck with an LSAT score lower than their practice test scores. I didn't use that method myself, but I know of people who have cancelled more than one test until they get the "right test" and score really high. It's risky in the sense that (1) the admissions committee will know that you cancelled, and (2) one can only take the LSAT so many times and cancel before it begins to look ridiculous. On the reverse side of the coin, if you DO chose to take and score an LSAT in which you perform well below your expectation, if a law school really wants to accept you, there is a potential for the school to actually contact you and encourage you to re-take the test (and if you score reasonably higher they likely will accept you).

Finally, I'm sorry to hear about her mother, and I wish you both the best of luck. Never give up on the process because you think you're not good enough.

Message me if you have questions or comments.

Still here to help!


So I've read the book for immigration law (Legomsky) and I've gone to class. I just have NO freaking clue how to outline for this class. Our professor is a statutes heavy tester, and she told us the test is going to be pretty much like the hypos in the book, as in practically applying the statute to the situation. I really need an outline that does that. I'm usually a casebook heavy person and have been lost this whole semester regarding the immigration code. If someone could help me I would be forever grateful. Been trying to outline and I'm just flat out panicking. Never been so clueless about a subject before. Thanks in advance!

I didn't use the Legomsky casebook, but I have a few immigration law outlines that worked well for me last semester. Message me if you're still looking and interested.

Why do they have to "message you", this is a public forum....that sounds solicitous...IJS... :P

Because I give out my email and phone number to help people if they want to get in touch, and that's not something I'd post here.

Hi, I'm a Hispanic male who attends a top 5 University/College with a 3.3 GPA, and from what it looks like, I will be around the 163-167 LSAT range. I am first generation college (not sure whether that holds any significance when applying) and am also a varsity athlete at school. Do I have any shot at say UT Austin, UVA, or any other T14 law school? Thanks.

I can't remember if I replied to you via message, but just message me and we can talk more in depth.


I'm still out here if anyone needs help of any sort. Send me a message and I will respond asap. Good Luck.

If you can go to the LSAC sponsored forums, then go. But I think ideally you should talk to a pre-law advisor at your undergrad school, or do the research yourself. Ask yourself what region you to practice law? What type of law? And look on LSAC to see how your numbers match up to those of the admitted students. Then apply to schools accordingly.

To prepare for the LSAT. Take a prep course well in advanced. Message me if you are Latino/a and not able to afford a prep course, I can tell you what to do in those circumstance. Generally the more practice the better, but don't study the week of the test, give yourself a break. Studying so close to the exam will just increase anxiety when you stumble on a question you don't know how to approach solving.

Message me with other questions.

I would say you have a solid chance if 1) You finish all of your applications and make sure they are in the hands of the admissions committee before mid-February (call them up, e-mail them, visit them, do whatever you must to make sure they received everything before the deadline) 2) apply to schools that are realistically within your range plus a couple reach and a couple safety schools.

Applying later is definitely a disadvantage. I tend to think that people who apply last minute and scramble to put everything together generally submit a poor quality application (because they rushed) and aren't really as committed to attending law school as they should be. Attending law school is a lot different than college. Law school is a 24/7 job in many respects, and it's breaks you down and changes you forever during your first year. It's also a long-term career and lifestyle choice. Once you come into law school you can't really change your mind and quit because you would have accumulated massive debt and probably re-located, too. This is all just food for thought. If you have additional questions, message me.

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