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« on: September 30, 2004, 11:31:18 AM »
You are all right, I DID misread her statement. I apologize. I am extra sensitive to her posts because she has made rude comments to me in the past regarding my current profession as a Paralegal. I do think, in general, her comments to some posters on the board are a bit harsh. Maybe I am just grouchy, tired and bitter about having to take the LSAT this Saturday and the results of it dictating my entire future.
Regardless, thanks everyone for all of the helpful information contained on the board and for your insights. I'm through posting. I don't conform to the general mentality that permeates this board regarding rankings and feel that a lot of people on this board have no clue what life is like in the real world. I'm not saying everyone, but too many for my liking.
Best of luck to everyone in the admissions process! I hope everyone gets into a school that makes them happy, REGARDLESS of its ranking.
« on: September 30, 2004, 11:05:27 AM »
First off, I take offense to the fact that you called me "dumb." You specifically said "with a lower LSAT." I understood that you meant that in relation to the schools to which she was applying.
Secondly, in regards to your comment "don't even go to law school," I am more prepared to succeed in law school than probably 3/4 of this board. I basically work as an attorney now without the law degree. I draft appellate briefs, memos, and almost all of the correspondence for the attorney's for which I work. Don't even think about making the snide remark to me that you have previously made stating that the attorney's "tell me what to write" because they DON'T. They leave it in my hands from start to finish, edit it, and then sign their name.
When I sat in at two classes at law schools in my area, I already knew everything that came out of the professor's mouth.
I only mentioned the fact that a 159 is not a low score because people on this board are NOT an accurate representation of the performance level most people achieve. I was trying to imply exactly what ZAP said, "It's important to keep that in perspective." Is he "dumb" also???
« on: September 29, 2004, 03:37:09 PM »
A 159 is only considered a "lower score" by the standards of the posters on this board. It is the 79th percentile for gods sake. I'd be ecstatic if I got a 159.
« on: September 29, 2004, 01:36:31 PM »
Even if I score a 151, there are no real "safeties" in the DC area with my GPA (2.97). The only exception would be University of the District of Columbia but I don't plan on applying there since it has no credibility whatsoever. Howard may be a safety??
« on: September 29, 2004, 10:55:20 AM »
hmmm..thanks for those medians, as depressing as they are!
Is it even worth applying if you are below the 25% median at schools?
« on: September 29, 2004, 10:51:22 AM »
Have you taken a practice LSAT yet? There is absolutely no correlation between a high GPA and a good LSAT score. I consider myself to be a very intelligent person and am certainly well versed in issues relating to law, however, the LSAT is a totally different beast. It will test you on issues you could care less about, nothing to do with law, and very dense and boring. Good luck!
« on: September 29, 2004, 10:28:15 AM »
I am taking the LSAT this Saturday. I took a Kaplan course, however, it didn't really help much. For some reason, this test just really kicks my butt. I am lucky to break a 150. My undergrad degree is from Mason and is in English/concentration in Writing. My UGPA is a 2.97. I am hoping the fact that I have been out of school for almost ten years will negate the low GPA. I can't do anything to get around the LSAT.
I plan on applying to the part-time programs at GMU, GW, GULC, American and Catholic. In addition, I am going to apply to Howard for full-time. I don't care where I go, as long as I get accepted SOMEWHERE. I know I will do well and can transfer elsewhere after 1L. The classes I visited, I already knew everything they were going over.
I visited LSAC to check out the graphs for GULC, however, they are not listed. I have no idea of the range of LSAT scores they admit in the part-time program??? Anyone have a clue? It sucks to try to get into school in the DC area. It is one of the most competitive in the nation! I wish I was willing to relocate as it would alleviate a lot of my worries, but it is not a possibility as I own a home in Northern Virginia and have a kick-ass job here also.
« on: September 29, 2004, 09:52:00 AM »
That's an awesome schedule at GULC!! I work in Tysons as a Trademark Paralegal at a large firm. I am applying to all part-time programs in the DC area, as well as to Howard. I also sat in on a class at Catholic since that is a school to which I may have a decent chance of being accepted. The Civil Procedure professor came up to me during the break and was very friendly and informative.
The lady who gave me the tour at GMU was a bit of a snob. When I asked her why there was such a large discrepancy between in state vs. out of state, she really didn't have an answer. She said GMU attracts a lot of students from the mid-west because it is known as a "conservative" school, so a majority of their applicants are from that area (I find this hard to believe). Secondly, I asked why there was such an overwhelming difference in the amount of male students vs. female students admitted. I think it was something like 65% male for this year. She didn't really have an answer for this either. They also have very few minority and women professors.
Also, at GMU this year the part-time students are all in one section. That means that there are about 80 students in all the classes, except legal writing of course. I don't know, for some reason this school rubs me the wrong way. I think they are all about the rankings, and primarily admit students based on their LSAT and little else. As my LSAT score is most likely going to be exceptionally low (unless a miracle happens), I probably have no shot there whatsoever. Diversity is a huge thing for me. I want to be somewhere where there are a lot of different people, different ages, and different view points.
If you have more specific questions, let me know and I will try to answer. I am very familiar with the facilities at GMU because I took my paralegal course at the law school.
« on: September 29, 2004, 09:40:51 AM »
For me, my numbers will be in the 25% median for almost all of the schools to which I am applying. My strengths will be my PS, extensive work experience as a Paralegal writing briefs and memos on a daily basis, and excellent LOR from two attorney's and my paralegal instructor.
I am going to take the LSAT this Saturday. If I get below a 150, which is entirely possible, I will retake in December. That's my plan. I'd be happy if I scored anywhere between 150-155, which is pathetic by the standards of this board, but exceptional for me.
« on: September 29, 2004, 09:28:33 AM »
I am applying to both of those also, with little chance of getting accepted at either. However, if I did, I would definitely pick GMU. I will be going part-time and it is more convenient (no going into the city). The biggest factor for me is price. I'm 32, by the time I finish law school 36. With GMU, I will have very little debt to carry after completion.
That said, I visited GMU and was not impressed with their admissions office. It really pissed me off that they accepted something like 60% of applicants from out of state. The law school, itself, is not impressive. Very small, the library is decent and the parking sucks!
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