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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Temple or Drexel full ride?
« on: January 11, 2008, 08:50:36 AM »
Temple.  Temple is the only local school (other then Penn) respected in Philly.  No one at any firm will have gone to Drexel.  What is business law?  Philadelphia might not be the place to practice depending on what your idea of 'business law' is.

What about Villanova?  :)

Nova is too freakin' expensive.  Go to Temple if you have the option.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Average Work week at Big Law?
« on: December 18, 2007, 10:47:14 AM »
Anybody know whats up with the NALP average actual billed hours? In Charlotte, for example, at most firms where the minimum required billable hours is 1900 the average actual billed hours is more like 1850. How can this be right? It can't be accurate that the average associate doesn't make his billable hours requirement.

I know at some of my firm's satellite offices in smaller cities the associates do not reach their goals.  I am sure in some of the smaller markets, like Charlotte, there is just not enough work for each associate to bill that much time, and I am sure the partners in those offices don't have huge clients that require that much time.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Average Work week at Big Law?
« on: December 18, 2007, 07:46:03 AM »

Typical NYC day:  Go through your emails on your way to work, respond as much as you can, arrive around 10 AM, respond to a couple emails, start doing whatever you were doing (while simultaneously responding to emails)...around 1 PM grab a quick lunch and lots of coffee or an energy drink...maybe you have been given a quick assignment from a partner, so get on that quickly, and get him/her an answer by 5 PM...when that is done you probably have another quick assignment, so you get that done by 9 PM....back to whatever you were doing (doc review, brief, memo etc.) until about 11 PM...head it again. 

Arriving at 10 AM consitently as a first year associate is a sure fire way to end up canned.

NYC runs on a different schedule.  Any other city, people start arriving at 8:30 and are in by 9.  NYC starts later.  Ask anyone who has worked at a big law firm there.  You start later and end later (much later).  This is obviously in general terms (there will be days when you get in earlier to get something done), but a 9:30 or 10 AM start time is pretty normal. 


I just spent 3 weeks in NYC at a trial and was amazed at how (relatively) bare the streets and offices were at 9am.

Law School Admissions / Re: Drexel & ABA approval
« on: December 17, 2007, 01:54:22 PM »
Is it that soon?  I thought they couldn't be approved until their first class graduated, which I don't think is until 2009.

Anyway, I have no doubt in my mind that they will be approved.  They have some outstanding faculty and the Dean is top-notch as well, plus Drexel overall is a very respectable institution.  I think they are doing everything they can/must to get accredited.

In terms of ranking, I would predict they will be somewhere between 75-100, and in a couple years will be up there with Temple and Villanova.  Tier 3 at the lowest.  I think saying they will be Tier 4 might be a little harsh.

Law School Admissions / Re: Accepted TODAY !!
« on: December 16, 2007, 04:38:58 PM »
In at Penn State with money, and in at Pitt.

Congrats to all who have gotten good news.



Mission impossible.

(Said by a paralegal currently in the midst of trial working 16 hour days)

You're all in for a rude awakening!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Didn't they get the memo? I'm GAY!
« on: December 11, 2007, 12:27:37 PM »
I knew there was no way the gays could last an entire post without commenting on the OP's lovely picture.

I would add to all of the posturing and pontificating on the whole treatment of gays issue but I just don't have the energy.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Didn't they get the memo? I'm GAY!
« on: December 11, 2007, 09:49:26 AM »
And forget comparing it to race/religion etc.. There's a much easier one:

If a straight individual is permitted to do X, Y, Z with the partner of his/her/hir choice. So too should an LGBT individual with the partner of his/her/hir choice.

If you aren't allowed to be fired because you're straight. You shouldn't be allowed to be fired because you're gay/bi.

If you're straight and you and your partner are afforded 1,049 federal benefits solely because of a civil commitment, so too should you and your partner be afforded those rights if you're gay.

Amen to that.  And I mean that in the least religious way possible, considering the context of this thread!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Didn't they get the memo? I'm GAY!
« on: December 09, 2007, 04:26:40 PM »
OP - the people giving you advice clearly aren't gay. You don't have to make it your priority but there is nothing wrong with calling up the university and asking them to stop sending you mailings because you are not interested in their law school due to their discriminatory polices against LGBT students. It doesn't have to be politically charged or angry. Just a very simple, thanks but no thanks.

 I was being bombarded with mail from both Regent and Liberty. And made a point to call and ask to be taken off all of their mailing lists because I have no interest in their university for the above reason. Whether they care or not, I think it's important they know how many applicants both gay and straight won't be applying to their school because of their policies.

I guess if I find a person or organization to be ridiculously ignorant I dismiss them automatically, which is why my initial reaction was "who cares?" and not to contact them.

But you bring up a good point, though, Outlaw, and I think your idea is the mature and correct approach to this issue.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Didn't they get the memo? I'm GAY!
« on: December 09, 2007, 10:33:21 AM »
I don't know what they would say, hence my phone call.  It is interesting because it seems that a sleuth of legal questions could abound regarding such a discriminatory admissions policy if they refused to admit a homosexual.   

Sadly, I think they can discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation, since I am pretty sure that it does not (yet) fall under one of the protected groups such as sex, race, religion, etc.  But who cares, they are probably a crap law school, considering I don't think I have even heard of them until this thread, although I might have seen an e-mail from them in my junk folder.

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