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Law School Admissions / Re: Leave of Absence
« on: May 30, 2008, 07:35:39 AM »
As I recall most, if not all, applications will specifically ask you to disclose and explain any interuption in your undergraduate academic career. From what you have described, your leave of absence was an isolated event and did not have a major impact on anything so you can simply explain your leave very briefly [no more than 3-4 sentences] in your applications and that would most likely be sufficient.

I can't believe the stupid responses you are getting.  This is a total no-brainer.  REAPPLY next year.  With your numbers, you could easily be getting some fairly decent cash to T30 schools (with the possibility of some elite acceptances or big$ if you honestly think you can get a better LSAT).  And unless your scholarship is something special, BLS usually has pretty bad requirements for their scholarships, which means you could definitely lose it.  One more year off will not harm you in any way.  I recommend looking for a service job (Americorps or the like) because it boosts your application, resume and is just generally a good experience.  Either that, or bust your ass and save up money then go to guatemala and volunteer for awhile like I did.  Seriously, reapply and you won't regret it at all.  I did exactly that and could not possibly be happier with that decision. 

PS. It's time to grow up and live your life for your decisions instead of worrying too much about mom and dad.  You might be surprised that they respect you for it.     

Out of curiosity, what amazing options do you expect this OP to have? His LSAT is good, but not great. His GPA is below average. Looking at this chart, he is on the low end for every T14, and will *maybe* get into Cornell. You said he'll get "fairly decent cash to T30," but his GPA/ LSAT combo is *slightly* above average for Fordham. Sure, he applied late. Maybe he'll get a few more acceptances if he applies earlier next cycle, but I think your expectations are too high. This isn't a "total no-brainer."

I agree with this. OP needs to really consider how much of a better chance he stands to gain admissions to schools he/she would be happy attending. Surely if re-applying OP can get into higher ranked schools but that does not mean it is wise because OP might not be willing to attend said schools if they are not within a certain geographic region or meet certain criteria. It seems from OP's current options the focus has been on the NYish area. If OP is only willing to attend school near NY then Cornell and Fordhman seem to be good targets with OPs numbers, but admission to either is not a "total no-brainer" and the possibility exists that OP could wind up in same situation he is now, essentially wasting 1 year.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: GW's list of Books and Films relating to the law
« on: May 28, 2008, 11:42:54 AM »
thanks for posting this link  :)

Any more input? I have to make a non-refundable deposit by the end of the week..

Which schools out there would you be excited about attending?

I just got in and sent in my deposit.  See you all in August!


Law School Admissions / Re: 3.76/168
« on: May 12, 2008, 01:24:08 PM »
I will be taking the June LSAT.

Worry about which schools you are going to apply to after you get your real lsat score. Your real score can drastically change your probability of admission to the schools on your list by going just 2-3 points above or below your current projection.

Law School Admissions / Re: High LSAT???
« on: May 09, 2008, 10:28:11 AM »
Splitter here - low lsac GPA (3.3) but decent LSAT (174). Pretty interesting soft factors (speak 3 foreign languages, unique work experience, etc.) I'm applying for next cycle - Any opinions on what my chances are for getting into a GPA-friendly school such as UCLA or Berkeley??

lsn search: Berkeley, lsat range: 171-177, gpa range 3.1-3.5
result: 4 Accepted, 32 Rejected, 4 waitlist

UCLA, same ranges
result: 5 Accepted, 1 rejected, 26 waitlisted

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Minnesota vs. Rutgers
« on: May 09, 2008, 10:21:46 AM »
There a greater need for ESL teachers in MN that anywhere else in the country? Why is that? It doesn't seem like it would have more of a need that NY, AZ, FL or CA? I'm intruiged (and it's a rainy friday at work so I'm interested in most everything but my current project)
You are right that the demand for ESL teachers in those places is probably higher but so is the supply. Whereas the supply of ESL teachers in MN is most likely much lower than the places you listed.

Law School Admissions / Re: How low is too low?
« on: May 06, 2008, 10:49:22 AM »
How low is too low for a GPA?

With all that said, I am having such anxiety over my GPA. Should I?

While we're at it, should I focus on my work experience and future plans in my PS, or use it to explain why I had 2 horrible semesters in UG?

Your gpa is not too low to get into great schools if you score around your current practice range.

Do not have anxiety over your GPA, there is nothing you can do to change it now. No use crying over spilt milk. You will have to come to the realization that some schools will be out of your grasp because of it but it is not the end of the world. There are plenty of top schools which will be forgiving of your gpa in light of your lsat and work experience.

My advice from one splitter to another would be apply to a lot of places, use your application to highlight your positives not negatives, and going the extra mile when applying [why x essays, visits, interviews, etc...] could really help you overcome your gpa.

Law School Admissions / Re: When to send transcripts
« on: May 06, 2008, 05:48:56 AM »
I'm a junior entering my senior year. I've got 90 credits thus far, and I will be taking the LSAT in June. When should I send transcripts to the LSAC? If I'm applying during the upcoming fall, they will obviously not see my senior year grades -- what is the procedure concerning this?

Also, my cumulative GPA is a 3.76; how does this stack up with the average law school applicant (2nd tier schools and better)?

Thank you!

You should get everything you can into lsac as early as possible to avoid the fall rush. It sounds like you are already thinking about getting application material together which is good because applying early can be advantageous. I would strongly recommend [if you havent already] getting your letters of recommendation lined up ASAP. You can look around these forums and see countless stories about recommenders taking an excessive amount of time to write letters and applicants hands being tied while waiting for them to finish.

Your grades are great and will not hinder you at any school outside of maybe HYS. So your lsat score is pretty much going to determine how high you will get in the rankings. You can send in updated transcripts to lsac after each of your next two semesters, some schools may wind up asking to see your fall grades before they make a decision to make sure you are continuing to get good grades your senior year but this should not deter you from sending out apps as early as you feel comfortable. The advantage to getting your apps in early far outweighs the advantage compared with waiting for fall grades even if they raise your gpa slightly. Good luck!

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