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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Fordham wait list
« on: July 08, 2007, 09:02:02 PM »

if you don't mind me asking, what are your stats?

Im a non-typical student (read, old). 
Ugrad GPA 2.9
Phd GPA 3.4
LSAT 169

a fair amount of life/work/legal experience.

I have to pony up $800 by tuesday too. 

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Fordham wait list
« on: June 29, 2007, 09:40:49 AM »
Just heard from Fordham and
I am off the wait list.

This complicates my decision process in a very nice way.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Working for a firm as a 1L
« on: June 18, 2007, 06:50:49 AM »
If you're going to school full time, forget it.  1650 is on the low end of billable hours, but it's very much full time.  It would probably require 40 hour work weeks at least.

If you're going to school part time, and it's expected you'll have a job, it might work.  What I'm wondering is what you would be doing as a 1L with no legal training.  I'm not even sure you would be allowed to do legal work, you might need a certain number of credits before you're allowed to work in a law firm even under the supervision of a licensed attorney.

If you are going part time and want to do this (and it checks out OK with the rules), make sure it is very clear what is expected of you.  Is 1650 hours a target, or a requirement?  Is that the only requirement?  If this is a medium-to-large firm, they can have extra requirements (like extracurricular activities) that can run into the 100s of hours.  Ask how much you can telecommute or whether you'll be expected to be in an office all day.

It will be time consuming and difficult, and you'll have to make sure you separate your real legal knowledge from law school knowledge (trust me, it's different).  But you'll gain some invaluable experience.  Just don't do that at the expense of setting yourself up for bad grades and/or possibly getting fired if it seems likely that one day you're going to have to choose between getting school work done and getting firm work done.

thanks for the advice.  You've given me some more questions to ask my prospective employer.  I am a patent agent with some experience as an engineer supporting patent work so I think I'm ok for doing the work.  Im just a little concerned that I could end up fired and with bad grades which would be a double-whammy. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Last Minute Application
« on: June 18, 2007, 06:46:46 AM »
Does anyone know of any tier 4 or possibly tier 3 schools that are still accepting applications for the fall semester. (I just took the June LSAT)

I think Case Western Accepts applications until a fairly late date.

Incoming 1Ls / Working for a firm as a 1L
« on: June 18, 2007, 04:43:26 AM »
I have an opportunity to work for a law firm as a 1L.  Its a good firm and seems like a good opportunity (salary is good, support for school), but they want 1650 hours billable from me.  Is it insane to try to make it through the first year part time with this load?  Does anyone have any experience with this type of work load during school? 

I really appreciate the opportunity, but dont want to set myself up for failure.


Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Rutgers N vs. George Mason
« on: June 18, 2007, 04:37:56 AM »
I am accepted at GMU and RU-N (with scholarship money and in-state).  I would like to practice in the NY area although I hear great things about DC and will have an open mind if I head down the coast. 

IP is my specialty (based on work experience to date).

Is this a clear win for GMU?  Based on rankings I would say yes, but because of the hassle of moving down to DC (and the vast difference in expense) I would like to get additional input.

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