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General Board / Re: Grading Curves and Academic Dismissal
« on: May 05, 2007, 01:24:39 AM »
In the updated ABA data Vermont has an attrition rate of 12%, however, all of those are for "other" reasons and not for academic reasons. What are these "other" reasons? If it is transfers, health, etc. it seems rather high, what would be the chances of 23 people leaving for those reasons? Anyways how trustworthy is that data, isnt it provided by VLS?

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General Board / Re: Grading Curves and Academic Dismissal
« on: May 04, 2007, 02:22:28 PM »
Thank you all for posting. Just to clarify, I applied near the deadline and I have been accepted into third tier schools, such as Vermont, Duquesne, Pierce, and I am waiting on Albany, Wayne State and IU. As far as I can tell it looks like Duquesne has a C curve, might even be a "purge curve." But Vermont and Pierce I have no information on. Vermont seems like a top third tier school, so I hope that they have no need for any purges, but I could be wrong. Given that I have no info, do you think it would be better to email them about it, or wait until I visit the school and ask the students?
I dont doubt myself and my abilities, but I would hate to be in an environment where I am always thinking about getting the boot. Some freedom to make mistakes, which I know will be by the boatload, would be nice.

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General Board / Grading Curves and Academic Dismissal
« on: May 04, 2007, 03:56:29 AM »
I am going to be entering my first year of law school next year but I am worried. When I read about some of these grading curves it scared me. For example, no less than 10% must get lower than a C. Does that mean that 10% of your classmates fail? Is it really that rigid? This might be an extreme example, but how likely is it to be academically dismissed? 10% can be hefty if classes are small.

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Oh Canada! / Re: Going to the US, need HELP !!!!
« on: June 10, 2007, 01:15:08 PM »
Astro I couldn't agree with you more.

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Oh Canada! / Re: Going to the US, need HELP !!!!
« on: June 09, 2007, 07:19:06 PM »
Like I said earlier, the JD/LLB tuition is around $25K. You do not pay the full tuition of UDM.
I do not want to make this a discussion about how good the law school at Windsor is, but I very much doubt that it is the "worst in Canada." I doubt that it is the worst in Ontario, let alone Canada. Further, from talking to some current law students it seems that the JD/LLB program is fantastic. It seems worth the additional tuition.
Honestly, I do not use this forum much for Canadian information, thought it would be good, but my own research has proven to be much more valuable.

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Oh Canada! / Re: Going to the US, need HELP !!!!
« on: June 05, 2007, 08:02:06 PM »
The JD/LLB tuition is less than UDM tuition, its around $25K. I wont be paying it entirely on debt, but after considering US schools, I am mentally prepared for debt. Also an acquaintance, who is finishing law school in Canada, told me that she regrets not paying more for the JD/LLB program.
I have applied to Windsor for just the LLB but I have not heard back from them, they are notoriously "thorough" (read slow). Although, since I got into the joint program I dont see why I wouldn't get into just the LLB. I could be wrong. And even if I get into just the LLB, I would probably chose the JD/LLB program. There are other Ontario schools which are also taking their sweet time.
I wouldn't say I am tenacious, I think most people living in Canada with my stats would look towards the US instead of waiting on the 10 or so Canadian law schools. 
Does anyone know how many credit hours is a typical law school? Are a 100 credits a lot?

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Oh Canada! / Re: Going to the US, need HELP !!!!
« on: June 04, 2007, 02:35:27 PM »
Yeah the more I read, the more attractive the JD/LLB program looks. Most importantly, having both degrees makes you more appealing in the Canadian job market. Although I wonder how much work is involved in order to get both degrees in just 3 years. Are a 100 credit hours a lot? I have no concept of how much that is. 
My stats: 3.3, 154 (average), and yes I did have significant soft factors which I believe did have an important role in me being admitted.

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Oh Canada! / Going to the US, need HELP !!!!
« on: June 01, 2007, 02:31:45 AM »
I have been rejected from the top Ontario schools, and I am waiting on some other ones. However, I doubt that I will get in. By the way, I have no interest in going to school outside of Ontario, only applied to Dalhousie. I have also applied to American law schools and I got into some top third tier schools and some low second tier schools. More importantly I have been accepted to the JD/LLB program in Detroit Mercy/Windsor. Currently my goal is to come back home and practice in Canada. I dont know what I should do. Should I go to a better school, get a JD and if I want, go through the NCA (which I have limited knowledge about), which might take an extra year. Or should I just do the JD/LLB program? I am worried about the job prospects, due to Detriot's low rank (tier 4).

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Vermont Law School, need info
« on: May 23, 2007, 12:06:26 PM »
Thank you all, it does sound like a nice place. Might be refreshing living in a small town. Also I love skiing, so that alone could keep me entertained. But hopefully I will have the opportunity to visit soon and make up my mind.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Vermont Law School, need info
« on: May 17, 2007, 02:28:21 AM »
Applying to Vermont Law School has just been very good experience. They treat you well, respond promptly and with care. I am truly impressed. However, I know very little about the area, and the school. I view it as a top third tier school, with a great environmental program (something which may be useful in the future but I am not that interested in). What is their grading curve like? I am from a big city, but I dont mind living in a small town. Although some entertainment would be great, just so I dont go crazy. If anyone can provide me with a feel for the school and the surrounding area, it would be greatly appreciated.

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