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thanks for your replies everyone (and for not just bashing me). 

i was not trying to get "cookies" for my "black" name. I was just trying to show the way racism is ingrained into the people around me - like someone said, preconceived notions. 

i guess the whole point of my post (that i wrote at 3 in the morning) was that the idea of being surrounded by successful black kids sounds absolutely amazing and so completely different from what i've known. 

i'm sorry if being honest made me sound younger than 28.  you're right, i should just try to talk people different than me. unfortunately, the opportunity doesn't often present itself.  it's almost like there's some kind of segregation still in place here. it's not all that integrated.  i think it's stupid.  i think it's unfortunate that the majority of black people i have met either in school or through my work with a nonprofit here in my city completely live up to the stereotypes - dropouts, very young moms, violent, on welfare etc.  i KNOW that there's a BIGGER problem causing these problems.  the successful black people that i have met i don't know very well, but maybe i could.  it's easier to talk about this here because we're not face to to face.

so yes, in a way, i am naive when it's come to race relations and i wish i wasn't.  i don't really have problems with race so much as i feel that there is an entire culture next door to me that i know nothing about except the bad parts, and even those bad parts i don't know enough about to help or make a valid viewpoint on.

on that note, thanks for the input and the candor, i sincerely appreciate it. i also just thought of someone i can go to about all this - a very nice black lady (edit) who (edit) is a successful artist i met through my job.  thanks again for not bashing me!

in another post, someone suggested howard to me based on my lsat and gpa. 

i will admit that i thought it was a "black" school, but i just spent quite a bit of time looking at the howard law site and some other howard info on the web, as well as reading a bunch of threads in BLSD about howard and other HBCUs.

please pardon the long post, but this is a big thought. i'm intrigued by howard.  (28 years old, white female, graduating undergrad may 08).

i grew up and still live in a moderately sized town in south central pennsylvania.  i went to an inner city elementary school where the majority of the black kids were very poor and where white kids were the minority.  pretty much all the white kids were in the same section: the smart/gifted section. the white kids were mostly rich or at least well off (my dad had a very good factory job).  i remember not knowing enough to directly question this racial/economic divide as an elementary school kid, but it seemed kind of odd.  why were all the black kids poor? why were the black kids the ones who came to school early for free breakfast but my mom said i couldn't go? i just remember being confused by it but feeling it was inappropriate to ask.

i moved to a suburban district after 6th grade.  there was ONE black girl in my entire junior high.  and she was very quiet.  very different from the outspoken and sometimes wild black kids i was used to.  the white kids at my new school were often racist and as more black students came to our district over the next several years, racial tensions definitely flared.  (this was in the early 90s.) (not to mention, i missed all the cool names of my city school classmates: lakeysha, miqualani, eutika, saadiya, shaniqua. my real name is unique and it wasn't until i moved to the 'burbs that suddenly my name was a topic of conversation every time i met someone.  i have been asked, seriously, "is that a black name?" about my name, which is siobahn, pronounced shavonne, it's irish.  surrounded by other cool names in the city, my name had never been questioned. i've been explaining my name to people ever since i left city schools. i've had boyfriends whose parents, before they met me, would ask if i was black based upon how my name sounded. that is so retarded yet so typical of my area.  this is from people who don't think they are racist. the other response to my name is quite different:  oh, that's beautiful! is it french?.  no one has ever prefaced the "is it black?" with "oh that's beautiful" so that's why i consider it a racist remark.)

i know that racism is alive and kicking in my town and it sucks.  it goes both ways and often young black kids do things that don't help themselves and just make things worse.  but their lives are so horrible that they don't see consequences or a future beyond tomorrow.  the police officer assigned to the city schools said that there are over 300 gangs active in some way in our city!  the pressure must be tremendous to join one. i have no idea how that must feel.  i hear and read stories about minority kids and violence all the time in our area and it just saddens and amazes me at how hopeless they must feel on a regular basis. 

i guess what i'm getting at is, law school is about understanding more than law, it's about understanding society.  that's the reason laws exist.  i think that having the experience of being immersed in another culture, in fact a culture that exists right here in this country along with and beside my own, is an experience that will benefit me as an attorney and as a human being.

i really don't want to be seen as naive or racist or anything like that.  this is all coming from a very good place.  but if i'm going to be laughed at, i might as well as find out about it now before i think more about applying to howard.

i'm not expecting to run around all unity and rainbows and be like "oh i have a black friend, how quaint!".  but i think  that someone in another thread made a very good point - in the photos of classes from other schools, the majority would be white faces. to use a buzzword, i think it would give me a better world view.  i like to think of myself as broad minded etc, but honestly, i've had limited experience. i did spend some time on a native american reservation and that just made me feel terrible to be part of the subjugating people.  i just really don't understand racism but realize that a mild form of it is ingrained me from my life here.  i know very few successful black people. in fact, i know very few black people.  i know even fewer latinos or puerto ricans.  given the demographics in my area, that really shouldn't be the case.

i don't think i can right the wrongs or any grand view like that.  but i figure if i'm paying so much for law school, i might as well come out of it with something more than a j.d. which any number of schools offer.

ok, so i guess my naive view is that i want to feel more part of the world.  and the world is not white suburbanites. 

please don't flame me because i'm really not trying to be an ass, i'm just trying to have an honest conversation.

thanks for comments.

thanks for replying everyone, i feel a little more hopeful now!

i took 10 practice tests. 

i wasn't sure i'd have a shot at american, but i will give it a go.i'm willing to apply anywhere!

what about UDC? i don't see anything about it on the boards.  it's pretty cheap and is very focused on public interest. apparently bader ginsberg supports the school - there's a scholarship named after her and she gave a speech there - commencement address i believe.

wish i could afford to live in hawaii, that'd be nice!

well, took the june lsat.  153. (3.47 GPA, 3.92 for my major) it's pretty much what my practice test averages are. sad thing is, i thought the real thing was pretty easy.  i went back and double checked. i did 3 out 4 logic games, picking the ones i knew how to do well.  i really thought i had it down.  i finished each section early (except games of course) and used that time to check answers and then play with my pencils.  i figured obsessing over each answer wasn't going to help and i might change a correct answer to a wrong one if i thought too hard. i'm not sure retaking will change anything since my practice tests are all in that range.  i had the bibles and other study materials.

i'm interested in public interest law, specifically environmental issues, like environmental justice and policy (like that stunt the EPA and Army Corps pulled with the Clean Water Act). 

i REALLY want to to go school in DC.  i realize that GULC is way out of my league with my score.  but i feel that going to a DC school will have me in an area where a lot of decisions and action concerning the environment take place and besides - i just LOVE the area. ( i live in south-central PA and go to DC when i can.)  the cost of living doesn't really frighten me, i can live on a budget and i've had debt but i also have savings so i'm not concerned about that.

well, i just don't know anyone else who has gone to or is thinking of law school. my friends either stopped at a bachelor's degree or got a master's in social work or something. they all think i did fabulous on the LSAT because they don't know what else to say. so i'm looking for chat from fellow hopeful law students. 

i just sort of feel lost and there's not a prelaw advisor at my school (satellite campus of PSU). ???????
should i just apply to places i want to go to and hope i have a strong personal statement and great LOR?
i did start a grassroots environmental nonprofit in 2002 that was successful and that i served as interim director for from jan to july of this year.

so many if's......

Financial Aid / Re: Best Way to See Credit Score?
« on: May 08, 2007, 07:33:35 AM »
if you go to you can sign up for a 30-day trial of their scorewatch program (or something similar).
they do not charge your card up front and they say they will send an email one week before your trial is up. is the official fico score place.

i signed up for it and was able to see my credit score along with a bunch of other of info- it was like all of my credit reports were consolidated into one.

this is the only i've found to see my actual credit score and not just my credit reports.

also, if you are a member of a credit union, they might look it up for you for free.

Studying for the LSAT / well, i'm finally registered
« on: May 07, 2007, 09:38:18 PM »
i just registered for the june lsat. 

the only open place near me is actually the ls i want to go to the most, how ironic.

i realized after i registered that it actually felt like a weight lifted OFF me, rather than impending doom.

perhaps it's just setting a course in motion that isn't just prep tests and logic game bibles.

i took my last final today for my junior year exactly 12 hours ago. hmm.  well, i hadn't planned on registering for the lsat at the witching hour, but whatever :)

there's no real reason for this post, i just don't have anyone else who would understand except the posters on this board.

so, wish me luck. i wish all of you luck who will be chewing on a number 2 pencil on the fine day of june 11, just like i will be. :)

thanks for the info guys.

about summer, yeah, i meant getting together all the app stuff, like writing my PS etc so i don't have to do it in the fall.  i have all the dates for when they begin accepting apps.

thanks again, you all answered my questions!

right...i know about the transcript thing...never mind dumb question..thanks

maybe this was answered elsewhere, but i didn't see it.

i am applying to schools this summer, taking the june lsat, start my senior year of undergrad in fall.

this sounds kinda silly, but i'm wondering if law schools take into account your final undergrad GPA and grades or is it just what you have up to the time you apply?

i have a 3.5 (4.0 major) now, but it could possibly raise to a 3.7 by the time i graduate (one stupid C in a gen ed course is why it's not higher now).

am i thinking too much? i just want a chance at some good schools so i either have to get 170+ with my 3.5 or ....well, i don't know.  do they look at final grades when they WL you?

i couldn't find info on some school sites i was looking at so i'm looking for personal experience here.

thanks for you replies everyone! i appreciate it.

just some background if it helps - i am taking the lsat in june because i want to get that and applying out of the way before i tackle my last year of undergrad. i am the exec dir of a nonprofit, so lsat, school, AND work would not work out :)

i am hoping for GULC which has the Gerswic (sp?) housing.  there are some single efficiencies but not many.  the sharing would a common living area, kitchen, bathroom. i could *never* share a bedroom with someone, i can barely share a hotel room with people i know (nothing weird, just snoring and sleeping noises of others often wake me up).

housing in dc is $$$$ and i'd rather live on a campus for a year to get a better idea of living in dc to  know more about the neighborhoods and the places i would frequent before i plunk down a lot of money into a place. 

for campus housing, i understand there's an app where i can list preferences and such, and pref is given to first year students.  it's likely i could end up with another older person such as myself (well, i'll be 29 turning 30 my first semester there).

many of the other schools i'm looking at don't have housing for law students or on campus housing at all, so it's only really about GULC.  i know it seems kinda silly to think about something like that this far in advance, but i've never moved to a place as big as DC and i'd like it to be as simple as possible, which is why the on campus appealed to me.

thanks again for your opinions/advice, anything you have, please share!  ;D

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