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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: J.D/PHD
« on: November 12, 2007, 01:37:39 PM »
It really depends on the school and program, but if you're vigilant you can get through most in 6-7 years.

It's a pretty good deal, really, but you give up a lot on both sides to make it work (summer employment, proper TA'ing, free time to work on your dissertation).

I'd really make sure you want/need both before taking both on. Perhaps start with grad school, and see how that works out first?

Well that is what is at the heart of it all...I can't decide which one I want to do so I figure I would attempt both. I really need to explore what practicing law is like compared to what I see on tv or what people keep telling me (You would be such a great attorney). Being a professor may not be the awesome life I'd assume either. I wish they had forums like this to explore graudate schools for political science.

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: J.D/PHD
« on: November 12, 2007, 01:33:11 PM »
Professor of what? If we're talking  law professor than it would behoove you to  do extremely well on the LSAT so that you could get into a top school. 

There are many dual degree programs.  Have you thought of a LLM- masters of law? 

It seems like you're treating law school like it's an "end."  There are many other careers that you can pursue other than being an attorney with a JD. 

The other thing that I'd like to know is what type of law would you want to practice should you become an attorney.  There are firms/types of law where you'd need something other than a JD-  not just as a preference but as a requirement   



Well the PHD will be in political science with a concentration in international relations

In terms of masters in law, what concerns me is that it seems my intrest in law is more in practicing then the actual love of the law. I really haven't explored the law itself to see if it is something I would have a passion for.

My main intrest in law is trial (personal injury/medical malpractice)  or criminal defense.

Thanks for the reply



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Black Law Student Discussion Board / J.D/PHD
« on: November 12, 2007, 11:04:31 AM »
I am seeking some advice on clearing some confusion...

I still have ambition in going to law school however I see that my passion may  not necessarily be in law but in politics, sociology and philosophy. I've been going through a internal civil war trying to figure out what I want to do with my career weighing in the pros and cons of being a lawyer versus being a professor and concluded I probably will be seeking both in my graduate education.  I wanted to weigh in some different opinions on being a lawyer versus being a professor (pros and cons) and if I so choose to pursue both what steps would I need to take (in terms of the test to take, timelines, etc) I'm wondering how years would I be in school pursuing a JD (3 years) in terms of pursuing a masters and PHD (five six seven years?)



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Affirmative Action / Re: Where can I get me some white privilege?
« on: October 12, 2007, 08:47:56 AM »
Peggy McIntosh

"I decided to try to work on myself at least by identifying some of the daily effects of white privilege in my life. I have chosen those conditions that I think in my case attach somewhat more to skin-color privilege than to class, religion, ethnic status, or geographic location, though of course all these other factors are intricately intertwined. As far as I can tell, my African American coworkers, friends, and acquaintances with whom I come into daily or frequent contact in this particular time, place and time of work cannot count on most of these conditions."

1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.

2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.

3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.

4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.

5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.

6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.

7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.

8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.

9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.

10. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.

11. I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person's voice in a group in which s/he is the only member of his/her race.

12. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser's shop and find someone who can cut my hair.

13. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.

14. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.

15. I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

16. I can be pretty sure that my children's teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others' attitudes toward their race.

17. I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my color.

18. I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.

19. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.

20. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.

21. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.

22. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world's majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.

23. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.

24. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to the "person in charge", I will be facing a person of my race.

25. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race.

26. I can easily buy posters, post-cards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys and children's magazines featuring people of my race.

27. I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.

28. I can be pretty sure that an argument with a colleague of another race is more likely to jeopardize her/his chances for advancement than to jeopardize mine.

29. I can be pretty sure that if I argue for the promotion of a person of another race, or a program centering on race, this is not likely to cost me heavily within my present setting, even if my colleagues disagree with me.

30. If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn't a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.

31. I can choose to ignore developments in minority writing and minority activist programs, or disparage them, or learn from them, but in any case, I can find ways to be more or less protected from negative consequences of any of these choices.

32. My culture gives me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of people of other races.

33. I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing or body odor will be taken as a reflection on my race.

34. I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.

35. I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having my co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of my race.

36. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it had racial overtones.

37. I can be pretty sure of finding people who would be willing to talk with me and advise me about my next steps, professionally.

38. I can think over many options, social, political, imaginative or professional, without asking whether a person of my race would be accepted or allowed to do what I want to do.

39. I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my race.

40. I can choose public accommodation without fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.

41. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me.

42. I can arrange my activities so that I will never have to experience feelings of rejection owing to my race.

43. If I have low credibility as a leader I can be sure that my race is not the problem.

44. I can easily find academic courses and institutions which give attention only to people of my race.

45. I can expect figurative language and imagery in all of the arts to testify to experiences of my race.

46. I can chose blemish cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them more or less match my skin.

47. I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment or hostility in those who deal with us.

48. I have no difficulty finding neighborhoods where people approve of our household.

49. My children are given texts and classes which implicitly support our kind of family unit and do not turn them against my choice of domestic partnership.

50. I will feel welcomed and "normal" in the usual walks of public life, institutional and social.



owned...

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: The Black Men Thread
« on: June 07, 2007, 06:47:47 PM »
I have a very nice arse..

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: What is a sell-out?
« on: May 17, 2007, 06:41:52 PM »
I'm not black

I'm "paper bag brown"  ::)

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: The Black Men Thread
« on: May 16, 2007, 11:29:57 PM »
Because I stopped posting on here... alright I will post on here guys..sheesh..but I really do need to get some LSAT studying done..

Unless posting on lsd gets you closer to that 180, I'd say get your work done.

Yeah..hence I won't be around very much..less I'm posting time put in on my lsat blog.

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Oh also got Kaplan's Mastery Book for the LSAT..from what I'm told that book is awesome with doing problems and really honing the skills

Alright no more nonsense I'm not posting on here until I put in atleast two hours tomorrow. (which should be a general rule anyway)

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no...THE army ;D

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Actualy nevermind I decided to stay here..in all honesty I think more black folks need to see people studying for their LSAT.. plus I think a lot people on this board will help me achieve my goals.. :)

Oh and LSAT study time  for today 0.00 (lol) my friend from the army came in to visit..so I took him out...alright no excuses tomorrow for real :)

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