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I'd laugh and point at the OP if his type werent so common in law school.

I mean really... you answered your own question.

Its a B and its 5% of your grade... FIVE ... PERCENT. How hard will it be to "bounce back?" Not very. Theres 95% left to be had.  ::)

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General Board / Re: Downloading music, and the Bar
« on: August 31, 2007, 09:55:53 PM »
I really may only be speaking for the two bars I've researched and the one Ive sat for but...who does sit down interviews? Seriously? What state has the time and resources to do that?

My experience was...they do a semi-extensive background search and if anything come up during that THEN they may have you come in...otherwise you pass and you never actually have to see anyone.

Theres no blank space where they ask you to list all instances of general wrongdoing. And why is heavens name would you volunteer information that they won't ask you for and that hasn't resulted in conviction???


weird

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First assignments are usually larger than the typical assignment the rest of the semester. Why? Most often its because they want you to read all of that introductory (ultimately pretty useless) information so that you can get a feel for and sometimes a history of the subject matter.

Of course you'll all read it voraciously and take copious notes because its your first law school assignment after all...but you'll soon know what can be read, what can be skimmed and what can be altogether skipped.  ;D


Congrats on your beginnings and have fun!

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Everyone has given you some very good advice...

I agree with the undergrad library option. My school had so many libraries I would just roam around to them sometimes and pick a spot. This worked for me because...unlike undergrad...I knew roughly 65% of the people I saw in the law library and that encourages whispering and giggling and leaving to go out in the hall and chat at full volume etc. In other words...distractions. Sure you can find somewhere to hide but, at least at my school, all the good hiding spots were taken by the 2 and 3Ls.

Additionally, unlike undergrad for the most part, you are competing with these same people you see in the library for the best grades so its a lot easier to want to notice that they're still there when you're leaving, or that they are studying in groups or making flashcards or whatever. Some people feel an irresistible urge to do what the next guy is doing just so they can feel like they're keeping pace and this is just bad business. So, if you can do the library study and avoid all the common pitfalls, I'd say go for it.

I also agree with ... dont stick with it if it turns out not to work for you. I switched to 100% home study by my third year mostly because I no longer had a roommate but also because my study habits had changed due to the change in the type of material I was reading by 3rd year.

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General Board / Re: Question Members
« on: July 30, 2007, 02:47:47 PM »
Pocket.

There was really nothing that I needed to know that wasn't in tht pocket dictionary. Plus, it just stayed in my backpack and traveled with me so whether I was studying at home or at school, I had it. There are going to be very few things (for your purposes) in the unabridged that are not in the pocket, plus its more mobile...and cheaper.

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: 12 Hours A DAY?
« on: July 29, 2007, 09:12:46 PM »

[/quote]No experience here, but I think the briefing helps you process the information - organize your thoughts, and synthesize the information so you can put it into an outline.  Or it helps me do that because writing it all down is how I learn best.  I'm just hoping the process does get faster as I get more experienced.
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I think, even though theres some debate as to whether he should be giving his opinion or not....which is silly...the thing Gwiz said that is important is "how I learn best..." THIS is the litmus test. You can get advice all day long but some things are just flat out not going to work for you.

If I learn by re-writing an outline (which is deemed "inefficient" by most) or by studying in groups for 10 hrs a day...so be it. The important part is understanding how you learn and doing those things. Don't do things for the sake of doing them. Do things that are helpful to YOU and YOUR learning style. In undergrad and especially in law school you run into professors who haven't mastered the art of teaching. "Teachers" (good ones anyway) will usually try to incorporate leaning styles into the way that they teach. But professors are going to give you info in the same dry lecture format for the most part. Your job is to figure out how you learn and doing the things that address that style.

Screw what anyone else has to say. 12 hours may very well not be necessary to you but obviously was necessary to that guy. Efficiency is found in doing what works for YOU in a reasonable amount of time. That equation is going to be different for everyone. 

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I think you'll totally regret buying all that crap stuff later on. Its reeeeeealllly superfluous. Sometimes you will have classes where you learn the material entirely from the supplement (because your prof sucks or you didn't go to class etc) but most of your classes wont be like that.

Like others have said, supplements are useful for gaining an understanding for things you missed in class or just being able to read something written a different way.

But...you dont need all of those. Dont waste your money.

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There was a 15 year old 1L at my school...so younger can be a disadvantage at times lol. No one wants an 18 year old attorney  ;D

But...I would say that age matters very little. I dont think there are jobs that a 25 can get and a 40 year old can't. Many employers actually enjoy a "seasoned" employee, especially if your former field gives you important, relevant insight into the type of law you're gonna be practicing.

Good Luck!

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General Board / Re: Loans?
« on: July 03, 2007, 04:48:23 PM »
maybe i misunderstood but i think that's what he was saying. after he pays tuition, he wants to figuere out what he could live on and invest the xtra, at least that's what it sounded like to me.


I get this part. My original point was that...I have yet to see a school that budgets more than 19-20K for COL. Getting 30K would make investing something easier to do...but, I can't imagine why a school would give someone that much to live on when even schools in the most expensive COL cities dont.

I made this point becasue...if the OP ends up with about 19K to live on (which is more realistic and more probable) then its going to be harder to invest enough so that this strategy would be useful.

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General Board / Re: Loans?
« on: July 02, 2007, 05:25:47 PM »
Ok, I see you are talking about cost of living.  But the OP is talking about Cost of Attendance.

$50k cost of attendance is not unheard of.


I understand. 50K COA is extremely normal if not on the low side for most law schools.

But...the fact that the OP might be eligible to get 50K doesn't mean that he'll be receiving 50K that he can invest. The only money he'll be able to put in his pocket or invest or whatever is the COL money he receives. So, its really irrelevant that he could max out at 50K. The only relevant part is how much excess he'll have to live on.

Having between 19-20K to live on, it becomes slightly more difficult to pinch enough pennies to justify maxing out loans if you dont have to.

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