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My wife may have a job in Yucaipa in Riverside County, and we are looking to try and locate ourselves in the city of Riverside or Rancho Cucamonga, which presents a relatively decent commute for her to work. That said, am I out of my mind to think I could have any kind of pleasant law school experience commuting from either of these places to Chapman? Also, if anyone is in the know on MetroLink and can provide some firsthand experience on whether it is a viable option for this commute, please let me know. Any help would be great. Many thanks.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Charleston School of Law
« on: June 20, 2007, 06:31:47 AM »
Does anyone know anything about it? ... I know it only recently was granted accredidation from the ABA...But what exactly does that mean?... Is it ranked? Or will that take a few years?.. Just curious. :)

USWNR won't rank them until they have full accreditation.  Recent example of this is FIU, which had provisional for several years, but not full until this past December, after which they entered the rankings in T3.

I don't know much about the school, other than once it gains steam it should be a fairly desirable school to attend, given its location and the fact that it will have relative command of its immediate market in due time, or at least it could be imagined so.  As far as rankings go, I wouldn't expect it to be anything more than a T3 after full accreditation for at least a decade, even if it were a stellar school, and likely it would spend some time in T4 no matter what.  But rankings generally will not be a deciding factor for most looking to attend this school; it's going to come down to location, location, location, and the fact that it is the only school in the general area and so job prospects will likely be fairly good (as long as the school does not develop a quick reputaiton for being a POS). 

Also, didn't they manage to steal several decent profs from neighboring schools?  I read that somewhere, and if true will only help it in the short term, which is where its immediate concerns will lie.

EDIT: Not the best place for info, but

i'll just have to see for myself.  i actually found a reasonably priced ticket to NYC that leaves tomorrow and i've arranged some tours.  i just have to talk to these people face to face to get an idea.

Best idea right there.  Best fit for you is the best fit period.  Best of luck... still hope you end up at Miami, but you gotta do what's best for you.

Good luck.


r u from brazil, or are your parents? my wife's a 'zilian, and we've been a bunch of times... i just find it funny that a brazilian would complain about humidity (or not so much complain as to mention at all).  just an abservation leading to a query...

i'd go miami. big fish in a big pond, instead of mid-sized mackeral in an ocean.  also, the obvious latin american connections don't need to be stated.  from what i've seen and read, and this will have to be anecdotal as I can't recall sources to cite, miami is the city ranking third in 'most international law practiced in it,' after NYC and LA.  take from that what you wish (if anything)...

best of luck. hopefully i see you at miami.

I'm going to be taking a 5th year to boost my GPA before applying for law school. However during this time I will be completing my second and third major. I hope to boost my GPA up to a 3.2 by this time, and study my ass for the LSAT to get a 165+. Would the chances of getting into a Tier 2 school then be a reasonable goal to attain. The schools I'm interested in right now are University of Houston, ASU, FSU, Oregon, Chapman.

Um... with a 3.2 and 165+ you can do a lot better than all of those schools.


Really? I thought I was pretty limited. I know Chapman is a tier 4 and supposedly easy to get into. I would really like to get in Vanderbilt but I don't feel like my GPA is high enough.

If you are looking for a full ride, Chapman would give it to you on those numbers.

Just another example, Miami would likely give you an 80% scholarship with those numbers (lower ranked than some of your schools, but just an example).  Point is, you are selling yourself WAAAY too short.  You've got a shot at some top 30 schools or better, so take it if that's your wish.  If you want a decent school with nearly full tuition, go with something like Miami or another mid-to-high-ranked T2 school.  Best of luck!

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re:
« on: May 31, 2007, 08:55:20 AM »
Attending school in Washington, DC?

Invest in MORE than Education!   I graduated from GW and my parents regretted wasting more than $50,000 on four years of rent that could have been applied towards condominium ownership.   Lets go over the numbers.  Rent VS Buy.  We also do rentals, however.  Check out

Thank you for the honest and completely candid info. I'm sure many on here will see it for the useful info that it is and investigate wholeheartedly.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: FIU or Case Western?
« on: May 31, 2007, 08:43:11 AM »
It's a hard choice, but I have to say that Case would give you better options. It's a better school. Period. Also, people tend to not think of the fact that being from Miami gives you an inside track to jobs in Miami even if you go to Case. It's one thing to try to practice in a town with no connection to the city, it's another to have that connection. If you want a job in Miami after graduation, you will have just as good (if not better) of a chance if you go to Case than you would have if you went to UM. Hiring Partners will not think ill of you if you tell them you wanted a change of scenery for a few years when they ask why you went to Case instead of a local school.

Also, while Case is a Tier 2 school, it is a "name" school. People have heard of it, and may even assume it's higher ranked than 51 or 53. It will also give you much better options if you want to practice somewhere other than Miami.

However...Cleveland's not for everyone. Go check it out for yourself. Personally I don't think it will hurt your chances of gaining a job in Miami at all if you go to Case.

Absolutely terrible advice, top to bottom.


Most anyone in this board would agree that outide of T14 (or at most up to Tier 1), location is everything.  Matriculate where you want to practice, unless you get into a top school (and even some of the T1 schools wouldn't qualify for this rather rigid advice).  Most schools are local or regional at best, and not understanding this before committing to a school could be detremental.  If you wanted to practice in Seattle, then FIU would be a terrible choice, but for So FL it's a great choice.  Case Western is not, no matter what anyone says, a national school, and its rep wouldn't do as much as others may think.  Miami, on the other hand, is a T2 school with a much greater national rep than most other T2s, so it depends on the school.

Anyways, rant is over.  Go to FIU and be happy that you won't need a winter wardrobe.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: How do you request a deferral?
« on: May 31, 2007, 08:37:12 AM »
Just email them, explain your situation and ask.  Not much to it!

Yes, but without the secret code, which is what the OP is undoubtedly requesting, he will not even get past security.  PM me for the secret deferral handshake to be taken seriously.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Should I stay or should I go?
« on: May 28, 2007, 07:50:53 AM »
My humble opinion would be to re-look (word?) at this situation anew without the "paralegal as experience" factor weighing in at all.  I don't think that being a paralegal helps you become a lawyer any more than the first semester of law school does (which, incidentally, you have to take anyway). I have nothing against paralegals or the occupation at all, but I think that many people give much too much credit to the idea that being a paralegal prepares you to become a lawyer. I'm sure it doesn't hurt, but anyone who is "built" to be a lawyer will become a fine lawyer after three years of law school.

So take a look at your scenario again and leave that little tidbit out. Whatever makes the most sense at that point, stick with it.  Good luck!

What do you base this on? Personal experience?

Personal experience and anecdote.  I'm no authority at all, but I had once thought of going this route to gain some experience.  My father is in real estate and some other business ventures and has built some relationships with lawyers over the years, and so I took advantage of these relations and spoke with three local but well-regarded lawyers regarding this and other issues a while back.  They all told me, unequivocally, that I may have an advantage during my first semester or possibly up to my first year in law school after putting in a few years as a paralegal, but once the rest of the class caught up to what knowledge I had built at that point I would be on equal footing.  They basically said it would give me exposure to the material and topics, but I would get all of this in the first year of school.

Again, nothing against paralegals at all, I just tend to believe these guys and their insights. I also think about it logically, like how many (great) lawyers are there, and how many where paralegals before this? Probably an insignificant number.

All that said, I also think that specifics would depend on the person.  If someone is a slower learner, and doesn't catch on to theoretical concepts quickly, or needs to be hands on to pick things up qucikly, maybe that 6 or 8 month "head start" would do them good.  I really can't say.  As someone who picks things up rather quickly and has been trained to think conceptually and abstractly, and who did an undergrad in a little more than 2 years, I tend to think that three years of law school is going to be good enough for me.  But that doesn't mean that it will be for everyone. FOr example, I know a girl who took 5 and a half years to do an undergrad, not because she was stupid or slow, but because she is meticulous and wnated to truly underdtand *everything* she studied. It ended up working to her advantage, as she was chosen as one of 15 people from thousands of applicants for some crazy Masters program she wanted to get into, as her marks form undergrad (and her knowledge obtained) reflected her abilities.

Anyways, to each their own, but I think for the vast majority of people they would do just as well to enter law school with paralegal experience and work their asses off. Then again, maybe you could spend some extra time on the beach or at the bar in the first year if you *did* have that experience  ;D

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Should I stay or should I go?
« on: May 25, 2007, 06:59:01 PM »
Most schools don't average the scores anymore....just don't apply to UWash

Or Miami

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