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General Board / Re: Frustration in Finding Summer Job
« on: January 15, 2007, 01:11:13 PM »
I'm not a snob.  I'm only at a Tier III school and thus I need REALLY good grades to get the better job.  I didn't mean to offend anyone.  I'm just frustrated that if I interviewed for a lot of those big law jobs NOW I would have probably gotten more interviews and maybe even an offer.  Oh well...

Maybe more interviews but probably no offer.  I hate to say it but your T3 status is very hurtful for biglaw.  Even with law review you'd still need to be at least top 15%.  Your GPA, while greatly improved, still falls below the biglaw threshold given the TTT'ness of your degree.

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General Board / Re: Frustration in Finding Summer Job
« on: January 14, 2007, 11:27:46 PM »
Depends on what school you're in.  If you're at a TTT, then I'm afraid the 2L biglaw ship has probably set sail without you.  Most if not all biglaw firms have filled their summer classes.  Its likely they won't consider you over some decent 1L student from a t14. 

Try for after graduation though.  But even for after graduation, if you're at a ttt or t2, I'd say you still need to be at least top 15% to be considered for biglaw.

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Law Firms / Re: How important is the name really?
« on: December 17, 2006, 03:12:10 AM »
BUT Hofstra has a brand new Dean (who is in fact my Torts prof) and he has already started the improvement process.  I actually am a part of it, because I among many of my classmates, are the recruits he wanted to get so much. 

Hofstra had the lowest bar passage rate of all NYC schools, 6 points below the state average, for the last bar exam. So much for improvements.


http://www.nylawyer.com/adgifs/decisions/121506examchart.pdf

Ouch...OP must be studying hard for finals now so she can achieve her biglaw dream.

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Law Firms / Re: How important is the name really?
« on: November 27, 2006, 11:17:14 PM »
if by "dissing" you mean sharing some facts and statistics about the profession, then yes, i am dissing big law

but alas, like most who can, i will be there this summer and probably for a couple of years after graudation

i like to tell myself that i am victim of circumstance

Cool congrats.  From some of your posts, I was under the impression that you didn't get a biglaw summer offer.

Getting a biglaw firm to practically pay for your 3rd year isn't too bad  ;)

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Law Firms / Re: How important is the name really?
« on: November 27, 2006, 10:45:48 PM »
People always like to diss biglaw.  Too bad the criticism usually comes from those who have no biglaw work experience or are upset about getting dinged from screeners and callbacks.

Guess I'll have to let you know how it is after next summer.  ;)

Cool we can compare notes. 

There are a number of things about biglaw that aren't enviable.  But I hate it when I hear people who couldn't get a job talk about how they "didn't want to work biglaw anyway."

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Law Firms / Re: How important is the name really?
« on: November 27, 2006, 10:33:05 PM »
People always like to diss biglaw.  Too bad the criticism usually comes from those who have no biglaw work experience or are upset about getting dinged from screeners and callbacks.

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General Board / Re: State of the job market...
« on: November 27, 2006, 10:25:10 PM »
Actually, for big firms anyway, this  year the market is supposed to be quite strong, stronger than it has been in years. 

I have found this to be correct, at least in the NYC job market.  Market is great as long as you didn't go to a non-t1 and did decently well.  I know lotsof people who had mediocre grades and are still working v100.  Friends at Fordham and Cardozo all agree that the market has been very good this year for biglaw hopefuls.

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Law Firms / Re: How important is the name really?
« on: November 16, 2006, 10:38:45 AM »
For what it's worth, the law school name is meaning less and less. I'm a 2L not at a T14 law school (but top tier) and I have 8 outstanding offers in BigLaw firms in NYC and DC. I'm probably in the top 30% of my class (we don't rank), but not in the top 3% and I'm not on law review. However, I did go to a top Ivy League undergrad and have quite a bit of "interesting" work experience. The hiring partner at one of the firms I interviewed told me that 5-10 years ago he would only hire from Harvard, Stanford, Columbia Law, etc. That's because the firms client's wanted to know that their lawyers that they pay a lot of money for went to the top schools. This is changing for a lot of BigLaw firms and they are seeking to diversify their summer associate classes. The partner I spoke with prided himself on the fact that last year of the firm's 50 offers, they were from 35 different law schools. What seems to be most important in landing the BigLaw offer is not so much where you went to law school, but work experience. All of my classmates who don't have offers at this point went straight through from undergrad to law school and are quite young.

Well its different going to a T1 regional school and going to a 3rd tier school like Hofstra. 

Obviously a top tier regional school like Fordham can place grads in biglaw who come from the top 1/3. 

At Hofstra and other 3rd tiers you have to be in the top 10% or higher.

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Law Firms / Re: Does age limit law career options?
« on: November 15, 2006, 01:38:27 AM »
what if you are over 45 and have grey hair or balding? 

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Law Firms / Re: How important is the name really?
« on: November 13, 2006, 11:13:18 PM »
FWIW -

Hofstra 2L here, not top 10%, but on LR. I managed to secure a BigLaw summer associate position for 2007 in NYC (4 offers, actually). Didn't have to pull any strings to get it either. I am sure it's because I interview well, and I have a magnificent resume. I suppose the 10 years of work experience didn't hurt.

Kick butt with your grades, make your resume interesting and powerful, get on Law Review, and above all, be more than some legal drone (i.e. have a personality - people hire people they like.) It's doable, but if you can't be top 10%, you have to differentiate yourself another way.


What was your class rank?  How many of your classmates are going to biglaw and what was their class rank? 

Since you were on law review I'd assume that your experience is atypical compared to the typical Hofstra student.

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