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Transferring / Re: Chances at CLS/NYU?
« on: June 04, 2009, 04:42:00 AM »
I imagine you've got fantastic job options in the top 10% of Fordham...what's inspiring you to transfer?

Job Search / Re: so will fall OCI in 2009 be worse than this year?
« on: May 14, 2009, 05:16:19 PM »
bump. thoughts on 2009 OCI now? i'm thinking it won't be as bad as people predicted 6-7 months ago.

I'm thinking worse.

With everyone on deferral now, they have a very easy way to take up slack in hiring without making summer offers.


Yup. It's gonna be bad.

Current Law Students / Re: Just started outlining now
« on: April 25, 2009, 01:38:57 PM »
old class outline + your own notes from class + gilberts (for clarification and gap-filling) = you'll be just fine.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Commuting..
« on: April 21, 2009, 06:45:04 AM »

"The Nine" was a great listen.

Loved Arthur Miller's Civ Pro lectures too.

The fear is in me now, so focus is no longer a problem.  :D

Law School Admissions / Re: Columbia 1Ls taking questions
« on: April 13, 2009, 06:18:21 PM »
They shared some stats with us at the EIP orientation--I think it Fall 08 the top 30 firms made close to 800 summer offers to CLS 2Ls, 48% of those offers went to people in the top 1/3.

*In the current economy* they've encouraged us to focus on a geographical region we want to be in and apply to a range of firms in that area including some regional mid-size and small firms.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: loan forgiveness programs
« on: April 13, 2009, 06:07:53 PM »
anyone doing one of these? could someone explain the pros and cons of it to me? I have a fair amount of debt coming into law school and wanted some info on this.

Pros: if you take a low-paying public interest job, it pays the loans!
Cons: doesn't cover undergrad loans, if you start making money or marry someone who does you may have to pay it all (or most of it) back, takes 10 years.

Columbia's is apparently a "good" LRAP. I don't know what others look like.

Columbia's LRAP does not include undergrad or consumer debt, but they deduct the amount you pay toward you undergrad loans when calculating your salary to determine how much of your law school loan payments they'll cover. At Columbia they cover 100% of your loan payments if you make 50k or under. If you make above 50k, you owe 34.5% of your salary above 50k toward your loans--CLS covers the rest.
Sooo, if you make 60k a year, you pay $3450/year toward your loans and CLS pays the rest. If you make 80k, you pay $10,350/year...

The loans aren't actually "forgiven" right away. LRAP gives you a loan to pay your loans and then eventually forgives the LRAP loan. It takes 10 years for 100% to get forgiven...

That's the basic story!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Columbia vs. Chicago ($).....Help!
« on: April 04, 2009, 01:58:28 PM »
Funny enough, I met a CLS grad who works for Oprah (writing contracts for her TV and radio deals). He loves the gig but misses NYC (he lives in Chicago now--keeps an apartment in New York).

What he said about his career in Entertainment Law: he got into it by seeking out entertainment and media deals while he was working at Simpson Thatcher. After 5 years he left and launched himself into entertainment law only in LA and NYC. He told me that the Columbia network was hugely helpful to him when he wanted to leave Simpson and for every subsequent job, but that he couldn't think of much he did in law school that really helped his career later.

He told me to enjoy law school, make a lot of friends, and take a class or two at the business school.

So there ya go--Chicago has a good network too, I'm sure. I really hope CLS gives you some grant money. I'm not entirely confident saying that NYC and Columbia are worth an extra 66k, but I love it here.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Columbia vs. Chicago ($).....Help!
« on: April 04, 2009, 01:42:53 PM »
What makes Morningside Heights a great place to live (and go to law school):

1. I live 2 blocks away from the 1 line in a pre-war elevator building by Riverside Church--a 680 square foot one-bedroom for $1300/mo. And we can have pets. Thank you Columbia!

2. An actual campus is a real asset. We get Manhattan *plus* a little academic community. It makes a big difference, I think, that most of us live here as well as going to school here. It makes it easy to have impromptu get togethers and really get to know each other.

3. There are good restaurants: Pisticci, Max Soha, Dinosaur BBQ, Miss Mamie's Spoonbread, Thai Market, Indus Valley, Taqueria y Fonda la Mexicana...and the price is right.

4. Harlem is not scary and kind of awesome, and I would never have known that if it wasn't the neighbor-neighborhood.

Law School Admissions / Re: Columbia 1Ls taking questions
« on: March 03, 2009, 06:01:36 PM »
Wow! I completely forgot it's that time of year again! Hi prospies (propective students)!
I would love to gush CLS-love for you all too. And maybe complain a little too. ;)

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