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Business Organizations, Bankruptcy, Wealth Transfers, Coal, Oil & Gas, Legislation.
Many hours to be spent in the library (again). >:(

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General Board / Re: Anyone Still Not Get Their Grades Yet?
« on: June 18, 2009, 06:47:35 PM »
Last one released this afternoon, 41 days after the final.

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General Board / Re: Best study aids for Evidence & Con Law?
« on: June 16, 2009, 09:39:33 PM »
Con Law: Chemerinsky . It is certainly long, but it's also comprehensive; you won't need to read the whole thing for what you cover in your class.

I used the Evidence E&E and thought it was good.

+1 on the Chemerinsky supplement. Priceless, and makes it understandable.

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General Board / Re: Anyone Still Not Get Their Grades Yet?
« on: June 12, 2009, 02:48:03 PM »
I got 4 of 5 yesterday afternoon with no idea when the last one will roll in. Ridiculous.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: West Virginia University
« on: March 30, 2009, 09:16:26 PM »
Thanks for the kind words, JS.  ;D
He also knows what he's talking about, and is more familiar with the placement #s than me...and is on Law Review (which I believe is one of the oldest LR's in the country).

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: West Virginia University
« on: March 15, 2009, 08:58:37 PM »
Congrats, CPAJD!  Glad to hear you got in.

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A person in the other Contracts section had her laptop freeze up during the midterm...she lost 20 minutes out of a 2 hour test.
Which is precisely the reason why I used bluebooks for my finals last December.

If your school requires electronic submission, I can't imagine a freeze-up hasn't taken place before and that alternate arrangements were made. Ask them what their policy is before exams.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: West Virginia University
« on: March 02, 2009, 11:13:39 PM »
WVU 1L weighing in here. I am a non-trad, about 25 years out of undergrad. Most of my classmates are under 25, but we have two who are 60+.
This is a GREAT law school...the professors are excellent, which I feel is an important point. Faculty is interested in your success and are always willing to talk with you. They make it a point to get to know you by name and a lot are interested in your backgrounds. Yes, you do have to work hard, but there is time to enjoy other activities (I made it to 4 football games last fall).
Law school is all about managing your time, keeping up with the readings, and not falling behind. I applied to one other school, was WL'd there, and this was my first choice. Glad I'm here.
Our class size was 148, we've lost about 7-8. All but 1 or 2 decided law school wasn't for them, rather than the other way around. Large class size is about 70, with legal writing class size about 20.
WVU has an excellent legal writing program, as well as a solid public interest program. People in my class get along great, there is no cutthroating going on...all are willing to lend a hand to help you out if you need it.
If you have been accepted here, strongly suggest you attend the ASD April 4. If you intend to practice in WV, this is the place to go. There are about 6-8 large WV based firms here who mostly hire from WVU. From what I've heard, placement rate is pretty decent within 6 months after graduation.
You will learn the law here...and I know some WVU law grads who I'd put up against T14 grads anyday.
Hope this helps.


As with a typical law student, you hear nothing about employment after graduation.  The abovementioned stuff matter not much in 3 years, if at all. 

Well, someone other than you found it useful, which is all that matters to me. And I did address placement at the end of the post. 90+% within 6 months from what I've heard.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: West Virginia University
« on: March 02, 2009, 05:39:13 PM »
Judge Haller, I'm familiar with former president Hardesty but its nice to hear positive comments about the others as well.  Thanks again for the info about your course and workload as a 1L-- and here's hoping for an acceptance soon...

Best of luck to you. Hope you make it in soon.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: West Virginia University
« on: March 02, 2009, 04:17:07 PM »
WVU 1L weighing in here. I am a non-trad, about 25 years out of undergrad. Most of my classmates are under 25, but we have two who are 60+.
This is a GREAT law school...the professors are excellent, which I feel is an important point. Faculty is interested in your success and are always willing to talk with you. They make it a point to get to know you by name and a lot are interested in your backgrounds. Yes, you do have to work hard, but there is time to enjoy other activities (I made it to 4 football games last fall).
Law school is all about managing your time, keeping up with the readings, and not falling behind. I applied to one other school, was WL'd there, and this was my first choice. Glad I'm here.
Our class size was 148, we've lost about 7-8. All but 1 or 2 decided law school wasn't for them, rather than the other way around. Large class size is about 70, with legal writing class size about 20.
WVU has an excellent legal writing program, as well as a solid public interest program. People in my class get along great, there is no cutthroating going on...all are willing to lend a hand to help you out if you need it.
If you have been accepted here, strongly suggest you attend the ASD April 4. If you intend to practice in WV, this is the place to go. There are about 6-8 large WV based firms here who mostly hire from WVU. From what I've heard, placement rate is pretty decent within 6 months after graduation.
You will learn the law here...and I know some WVU law grads who I'd put up against T14 grads anyday.
Hope this helps.


Thanks for the comments.  I'm also a non-trad over 40 so your thoughts on this are helpful. So I'll throw a few more questions at you:   What have been your favorite classes and most challenging classes so far in 1L.  Any particular profs that stand out, good or bad?  How much time have you found you're spending in the library and on readings each week?  Finally, do you know what kind of practice you'll be pursuing?

Favorite classes last fall were Contracts, Civil Procedure and Torts. The professors made the classes. This term it's Civil Procedure, Property and Professional Responsibility.
I will give props to Cummings, Taylor, DiSalvo and Hardesty. I will not comment negatively on any professors.
Work load (classes + studying) is about 10-12 hours a day M-F, about 6-8 Sat and Sun this semester, which is more than last fall. Course load is 16 hours, so that gives you a general idea. Legal writing puts a crimp due to researching/writing papers. My classes all start at 8:30; I'm here around 8AM and go home around 6; then work another couple of hours or so. Spend the days after/in between classes in the library, then finish up at home. LOTS of reading. Haven't figured out what area I want to go into, but won't be doing any plaintiff's work.
Hope that helps. Good luck...hope to see you in next year's 1L class.

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