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I took barbri, but toward the end of the summer I couldn't help but think that I wish I had saved my money and studied their books on my own.  Their outlines are great, but they have you spend so much time doing other things (including listening to the lectures that aren't complete at all), that you never get to the details that the multi-state will want you to know. 

That said, I passed without much trouble.  Not sure if that is because of barbri or despite it. 

Bar Exam Preparation / Re: Good/Bad Experiences with Barbri
« on: December 07, 2010, 10:40:09 AM »
If I had to do it over again, I would buy the books and study for it myself.  I would focus mostly on the outline books and condense it all summer.  I would also do the practice problems they provided.  The class itself was a waste of money, just buy the books. 

I did pass btw, but the poster above me is VERY right about the y and z being the focus.  That is especially true for the multi-state MC. 

Arkansas - Fayetteville / Re: Recent Grad-Free to Answer Questions
« on: August 04, 2010, 11:21:24 PM »
Sorry about the delayed response.  I kind of checked out before and after the Bar exam.

Ignore the guy above you.  If you are genuinly interested in the law, you'll like it.  Don't get me wrong, there are hard parts of law school.  1L year will take some adjustments just learning how to think like a lawyer, but everyone goes through it.  Second year will be BUSY.  But, I think it was a worthy experience, though I'm glad to be done with it. 

The 3 day orientation sucks.  Like, lots of pointless information.  But, I did get a question on the bar exam that I pretty much remembered because of the mock class during orientation.  Also, legal writing class starts during orientation, and you'll need to be there for those first classes.  Sorry, you won't like those 3 days. 

I don't know about the alumni house thing....

Arkansas - Fayetteville / Re: Recent Grad-Free to Answer Questions
« on: July 23, 2010, 02:36:17 AM »
You know, I was the same way in undergrad.  But in law school, especially your 1L year, you WILL have trouble spotting the issues in cases.  Other people's highlights help a ton, especially if they did it diligently.  I wouldn't worry with that at all. 

Arkansas - Fayetteville / Re: Recent Grad-Free to Answer Questions
« on: July 22, 2010, 01:10:54 PM »
Of course they would change the list, lol.  They used to have a LOT more on the list.  I guess that's good because people won't be wasting money now.  You definately need all of those except Reading Like a Lawyer.  I also didn't use Writing and Analysis in Law or Basic Legal Research much, but I did use them periodically. The Bluebook is a must. The books for the core classes are also. Sorry to disappoint, but you pretty much need all of them except 1....The book store will have them for awhile, if you want to wait and see if you can get by without some of the legal writing books. 

Arkansas - Fayetteville / Re: Recent Grad-Free to Answer Questions
« on: July 21, 2010, 10:32:12 PM »
Oh, one more suggestion for you guys.  Ask around, as soon as you get there, for the Brill Script (a lot of people call it the Brill Bible, but, as a Christian, I just feel weird using that term). It's a word document where someone amazingly was able to type everything he said in class a few years back. It helps a TON. Anyone who had him for Civ Pro should have it for you.  I didn't know about it for about a month.  It would've reduced a lot of stress had I had it. 

Make sure to post the book list when y'all get it.  I promise there are several books you don't need which cost me a lot of money. 

Arkansas - Fayetteville / Re: Recent Grad-Free to Answer Questions
« on: July 21, 2010, 10:23:30 PM »

The students are hard to peg.  I actually was amazed at how each class seemed to have a personality of its own.  My class was somewhat competitive, but at the same time most people seemed to be friends with each other and work together.  There was really only one person who was known to hide books or anything like that.  The class in front of me was about the same I guess.  However, the class behind me, this year's 3L's, couldn't care less about anything.  The on campus interviewers didn't even fill all their slot because people didn't even care to interview.  It was weird.  This year's 2L's, however, were EXTREMELY competitive.  They were involved in every club and did every competition.  Their grades were some of the highest I've seen (raw score, they still had a curve).  So, as far as what you'll see, who knows. 

The profs are inconsistant.  Some are REALLY good, others are mediocre at best.  As for your schedule, Brill will work you HARD, but you'll learn civil procedure well.  He's known as one of the best when it comes to that subject.  Unfortunately, I've never had Foster, Norvell, or Sampson and Sacharoff must be new.  Norvell is supposedly boring, but not that hard either.  Sampson is one of the easier Legal Writing Profs.  Not sure what Foster's reputation is.

Hope that helps!

Arkansas - Fayetteville / Re: Recent Grad-Free to Answer Questions
« on: July 06, 2010, 12:31:59 AM »

Well, as for "advice," I would say to enjoy your summer as much as possible because you will be busy in the Fall.  Law school requires endurance, so don't wear yourself out before you even start.  As for the disorganization, they do kind of keep you in the dark until several weeks before it starts.  At some point soon they will send you a schedule (if they have, I'm happy to tell you about the profs).  Probably about 2-3 weeks before classes they will give you a book list and assignments.  When they give you the textbooks, you can ask me which ones to buy because there are a bunch that are not necessary and are a waste of money (I lever opened at least 3-4 of them).  But, don't worry too much about organization, they'll get to you eventually. 

Frankly, jobs in Arkansas are kind of scarce right now.  I decided to take the Missouri bar.  I've actually gotten several interviews in Missouri since I decided to take the Missouri bar, so you can leave the state as long as it's within the region (assuming Arkansas is still a bad market in 3 years).  I also have a few friends who landed jobs in Tulsa (looks like you're from Oklahoma). 

Feel free to ask more questions if you need to.  Also, if I'm slow to respond, you can PM me so that I'll get an e-mail notice of your message. 

Good Luck!  Enjoy the U of A! 

Arkansas - Fayetteville / Recent Grad-Free to Answer Questions
« on: July 05, 2010, 06:28:42 PM »
I just graduated from the U of A Law School.  I'm willing to answer any questions if you have them! 

Arkansas - Fayetteville / Re: Lawsuit
« on: June 24, 2010, 07:24:47 PM »
Yea....should've looked at the date before posting, lol.

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