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General Off-Topic Board / Re: The Truth about the Pay Gap
« on: April 30, 2007, 01:03:43 PM »
But, I have to say that a policy solution is not the answer, unless that policy is only to ensure equal pay for equal contribution. To ensure that women are paid higher for performing less work, simply because they have the babies is discriminatory.

Women aren't paid the same for equal work.

Women can choose not to have babies. They can choose to put babies up for adoption. They can choose to hire nannies. Nobody is making them stay home. And if someone is they are perfectly free to leave those people.

Oh God.  What kind of sheltered fantasy world do you live in?

So, to me, it does not matter if "it's not fair". Life isn't fair. 

Good point.  Life isn't fair, and it doesn't matter if it's fair.  That effectively precludes you from participating in any fairness conversation, or indeed, any policy-centered question at all.  It doesn't, however, resolve any issues, since 99% of the world thinks that life ought to be fair.  STFU n00b.

Your first response: Read my first sentence.

Your second response: This is exactly what happened in my family. Tell me its fantasy.

Your third response: Zinged me. I concede on the fairness point. Although, I was simply quoting something from a previous post to respond to their original point. And what's more a "policy solution" that would guarantee equal pay rates to someone who is gone for months or years, does not work the same amount to begin with, or otherwise doesn't give as much to the person who employs them, simply because they are different, is discriminatory. So people who are looking for fairness would most likely agree that a policy such as that is not desirable.   

That said, I agree that a cultural change would be nice. More men raising their chilluns. I was raised by my dad while my mom worked. That seems fair to me. But, saying that the pay system is not fair simply because of the fact that women tend to stay home is based on a mistaken assumption: that women are required to do that.

BTW, did you hear anything I said? I said, there still is a discriminatory basis for differences in pay. That should be changed. b00b

your mom aborted you?  or gave you up for adoption?  based on other things you said, not true.

so you can't really defend the notion that you live in a fantasy world by saying it happened to you.  you lived in a household where your mother worked.  ok.  thats great.  really it is.  but why wouldn't you want others to have the same opportunities instead of saying it worked for my mom everyone can do it.  you can just leave a man who won't put up with it, or abort an unwanted child, etc.

that is to say you are completely disregarding the norms in society - and are living in a fantasy world. 

the choices you cited are not easy and don't apply to everyone.  moreover, even a woman who is single, who doesn't have children, STILL faces discrimination in the workplace simply because she has female parts. 

*edit* that is to say she's made all the choices she can make and she still can't avoid discrimination.

But heaven forbid we actually fix the system by eliminating the unions, instituting merit based pay, and eliminating or drastically reducing tenure.

perhaps if this teacher were given some incentive to actually teach, she might have done so.

I did have some truly wonderful teachers in my high school.  I just think its a crime that they took home the same amount of money and shared the same title as those who did nothing. 

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: GW v. Vandy with $
« on: April 26, 2007, 08:09:19 AM »
class size...

this actually happened to me.  yay public school. 

my senior year of high school our world cultures teacher showed this.  not to compare and contrast stereotypes, or discuss a western view of the middle east, but to "teach" about the middle east.

i still have not gotten over it. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Vanderbilt 2010
« on: April 24, 2007, 08:07:09 AM »
me = really jealous.  i wish i were in a position to buy. 

enjoy!!!  i'm sure its going to be awesome.  when do you move in?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Vanderbilt 2010
« on: April 24, 2007, 06:58:14 AM »
illini where did you buy a place?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Vanderbilt 2010
« on: April 24, 2007, 06:55:52 AM »
I would like to be, but seeing as I have no car and will have to scrimp on the housing budget to afford a car, I might not be able to afford it.

I also, because my roommates are pretty terrible this year, was thinking about living alone.  but im not sure, so if anyone chill is looking for a 2 bed/2 bath let me know because I'd be interested. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Vanderbilt 2010
« on: April 23, 2007, 12:43:52 PM »
Anyone?  No thread yet so figured I'd start it.  Say its 90% likely that I'll be there this fall.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: GW v. Vandy with $
« on: April 23, 2007, 07:37:16 AM »
I asked about why you wouldn't walk alone.  I've lived in NYC for the last 6 years.  There aren't many areas I don't feel safe walking alone.

But the suburbs creep me out a little bit.  Like deserted suburban parking lots are scary places. 

I just found it interesting that your perception of Vandy is that its a place I should be more frightened of walking alone than I currently am, and I'm currently in NYC, so that seems a bit off.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: GW v. Vandy with $
« on: April 22, 2007, 12:08:24 PM »
And, if you go to Vandy, do NOT go anywhere alone at night.

why not??

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