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It was *definitely* worth it for me to get two points higher on my third try (163, 166, 168).  Money went up 10k per year at my target school.  I was already admitted with money, but they reexamined and upped it.  That's 30k I don't have to worry about due to two freakin' points.

I had no hard evidence that I could do better, but felt like I had a reasonable expectation of doing better.  I didn't get my target of 172 (alas, I screwed up on my strength, logic games, and had to guess on about 5 questions there), but apparently, 2 points make a big difference anyway.

I considered just sticking with what I had.  I was already in at my target school.  But I went ahead again because the small investment (relatively) had such a huge upside.  I mean, if you consider test fee, prep materials, vacation time used to study, and incidentals, it still only amounts to maybe $1,000 (probably way less). That's $1k and sweat for a $30k return.

That logic games section will haunt me (170 was in my grasp!), but still, 30k is 30k and it's at a great school.  I'm glad I retook.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb Results
« on: February 27, 2009, 05:57:51 PM »
Rather than reinvent the wheel, I'll just post this helpful link that someone else referenced:

Sorry that it's on the other forum.  I don't have the patience to use the sucky search feature here to find a like one.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb Results
« on: February 27, 2009, 04:59:11 PM »
Go to "Account Status," then "LSAT."  Score will be in the "Score" column when the time comes.  The infamous "box" is also located on that page as well as on the aforementioned page.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb Results
« on: February 27, 2009, 04:41:44 PM »
Go to "My docs," then "LSAT" in your LSAC account.  In the "Update" field, if there is a date listed, your box is filled.  If not, it's not.

Mine is now filled as of 3:35 or so Central.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb Results
« on: February 27, 2009, 03:40:52 PM »
I'm supposed to be working on a project at work.  I'd been good until about 2:00.  Now I'm getting antsy.  I wonder what the server spikes are like at the LSAC on days like today?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb Results
« on: February 27, 2009, 03:35:09 PM »
Sounds like some boxes are filled:

I assume that's trustworthy....

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb Results
« on: February 27, 2009, 03:21:36 PM »
Anyone's box filled yet? 

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb Results
« on: February 23, 2009, 11:18:48 AM »
Anyone on edge yeat about the results comming the end of this week or first part of next?

If the past three years are any indication (and I can't see a reason to believe that they aren't), we can expect them on Friday:

2006, test was on February 4, scores were released February 24, 20 days later.
2007, test was on February 10, scores were released March 2, 20 days later. 
2008, test was on February 2, scores were released February 22, again, 20 days later.

For us, test was on February 7, scores will likely be released February 27.  No guarantees, of course.  The LSAC can do whatever they want to.

(Data obtained by searching archives of LSD--pretty sure I got the real ones and avoided the flames.)

Studying for the LSAT / Re: POWER SCORE COURSE BOOK?
« on: February 19, 2009, 09:59:06 AM »
I wish I could help more, Zefybo.  I don't know much about taking the LSAT when English is not your primary language.  The thought of taking an exam like this when not breathing the language would be horribly intimidating for me.

As to the flaw question: I don't believe they were flaws because they were examples to *indicate* the situation as a whole.  If I had said, "The book is worthless because this answer wasn't helpful," that would be a composition flaw and would certainly be vulnerable to criticism.  I drew a much less strong conclusion.

Anyway, my main point isn't that it's worthless, but that there are less expensive alternatives that can get you largely the same thing.  Given plenty of money and the choice between the option I presented or the Powerscore Full Length Course set, I'd choose the course set.  But given a limited budget and the options presented, I'd go with the alternative I presented.

One other point: the content of the books are primarily LSAT questions.  There is instruction, of course, but most of it is truncated repeats of what's in the Bibles.  Almost none of it will be new to you.  The rest is mainly LSAT questions from old LSATs, which is extremely valuable, of course--if you don't already have them.  If you've already gone through the books with the old LSATs, you likely will be primarily going over questions you've already seen.  But that's going to be the case for every major LSAT company with any credibility.  There can still be a great value in breaking down the questions by type if you haven't had that, but again, that is not something that is unique to Powerscore's set.

Anyway, if I were you, I would maybe search the archives of this forum for advice on taking the test when English isn't your primary language.  There's bound to be some practical advice from someone who has more expertise in that area.  I wish you the best in your LSAT endeavors.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: POWER SCORE COURSE BOOK?
« on: February 18, 2009, 02:18:17 PM »
I'm probably the ideal person to answer this question having been through these books and not through the course.

I actually bought the set second hand (yes, I now know that the seller should NOT have sold it to me) and used it a little bit for the June 08 LSAT and went through almost all of it in the 4-5 weeks before the February 09 LSAT.  My score isn't back yet from February (duh), but I thought the material was good.  That said, I really don't think it's worth $630 by itself.  If I had it to do over, knowing what I know now, I definitely wouldn't have purchased it (it was still expensive AND I had to do tons of erasing--valuable time wasted). 

Instead, I would get something cheaper, like Kaplan's book that splits up the Logical Reasoning sections into the different question types, then go over Powerscore's LR Bible section on each question type and the respective questions in Kaplan.  That way, you get the major advantage of the course books (lots of the same question type to get the method drilled into your head), but you don't pay an arm and a leg for it.  For me, anyway, when I got an answer wrong, the correct answer was almost always an "of course" type situation once it was pointed out.  The short explanation that PS offered for some (probably 5%) of the questions was occasionally helpful, but usually it wasn't necessary.  Ironically, it seemed to me like most often, the questions that really stumped me weren't addressed.  Then I just searched for part of it on Google and found an explanation here or on TLS.

For games, definitely get Powerscore's Games Bible and absorb it.  Adapt their methods to yourself.  Then just start with old tests and work your way forward.  Get the Ultimate Setups Guide if you're having lots of trouble setting things up.

Despite what some others have said, I really liked Powerscore's Reading Comprehension Bible.  It worked well for me.  I didn't follow its methods exactly, but it definitely honed my skills in that area.  I went from occasionally getting -10 on a practice section to rarely having more than 3 wrong.  Granted, that could be due to nothing more than more practice/experience, but it seemed like the RCB was a key part of my thought process when reading.  So I would recommend getting the PS RC Bible too and going through that.  Don't expect miracles if you are just a bad reader, but it is helpful.  Then just go through old RC sections from tests.

Also, I should stress that I don't believe that the Powerscore full length set is sufficient *by itself* to adequately prepare for the LSAT (nor did/do I think it was intended to be so for most people).  You definitely need to supplement with the Bibles.  With LR, for instance, they would often give a short synopsis of a question type, but it was often really, really short.  Like, a paragraph.  Whereas in the LRB, you get multiple pages of explanation.

Hope that was helpful.

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