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Law School Admissions / Re: need some opinions, please.
« on: January 12, 2011, 06:53:39 AM »
Oh, one correction:

I will be turning 29 right when I graduate, if I go to law school in Fall 2011. I've heard that law schools would count this against me (perhaps especially given that I am a woman).

By "law schools" counting age against me, I meant to say "law firms" when hiring. But you already addressed that.

In the end, I've decided to apply to just a handful of schools (not in the T14), simply bc I have everything set to go. If I get into any schools, I will re-evaluate then, whether to go or re-apply (or forget about law school all together).

Your advice is all spot on, thanks very much!

And yes, you caught me--I think there were/are a few of us sharing this account. I hope that's okay :-)

Law School Admissions / Re: need some opinions, please.
« on: January 10, 2011, 09:38:07 AM »
Hi, thanks for the input. I just spoke to my pre-law advisor and he claims that I would be competitive at schools ranked as high up as 18 - 22. But would I really make it into those schools, given my 163 / 3.8?

I am also leaning towards re-taking the LSAT and re-applying next cycle instead of applying with the 163 LSAT this late in the cycle, but the pre-law advisor said that I should do both. His logic was that I should see whether I get "outright rejected" from certain schools or waitlisted, because one way or the other it would be telling for my second round of applying. But to me that sounds like a waste of money and energy, especially if I know I only want to go to T14 schools.

How do law schools, especially in the T14, really view LSAT retakes (with no apparent reason)? How do they really view reapplying?

The other big question on my mind is concerning age. I will be turning 29 right when I graduate, if I go to law school in Fall 2011. I've heard that law schools would count this against me (perhaps especially given that I am a woman). So if I were to delay attending law school by one more year, or even two, would that significantly impact my chances at employment with the big law firms?

(It's not helpful that the most emailed article on the NYTimes is currently "Is Law School a Losing Game?")

Thanks very much.

Law School Admissions / need some opinions, please.
« on: January 06, 2011, 07:12:03 PM »

1. Should I still apply to law schools this cycle?
2. Should I apply to law schools at all?

I have a 3.8 from a Top 10 university, graduated 2008. Did some creative work after graduating and was hoping for a 170+, but ended up with a 163 on the December test.
I am an international student, not necessarily interested in big law firm work, so might be saddled with loans. Because I'm an international, it is imperative that I go to a T14 law school (I have been told ad nauseam).

Given that I have a 163 LSAT, and given that it is already January, should I forget about applying for Fall 2011 cycle? I understand my numbers will not be enough to get me in to any of the T14.

Thank you.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / NYU waitlist
« on: May 14, 2009, 10:08:01 PM »

I am on the NYU waitlist and already sent in an essay of my liking--totally fun piece that I at least think makes me an appealing person. Others think it is frivolous. In any case, is there anything else I can do at this point? I really want to get in, but have no desire to listen to the advice of my pre-law dean (that's another topic in another board).

So, what more can I/should I do??


Law School Admissions / my stats, my chances!
« on: October 22, 2008, 08:01:37 PM »
So this is the scenario: 173, 3.3 GPA, Ivy league school. With these numbers alone, what are one's chances at:


Thanks all

Law School Admissions / Harvard phone interview, what to say?
« on: October 28, 2007, 09:02:19 PM »
Hi, I'm posting for a friend of mine.

He had a 164 back in September 2003 as a college senior, but this was from not studying and not even wanting to apply to law school necessarily. He has been in the Korean military since, and got a 177 on the December 2006 test. He studied very hard to get this score because he was convinced he wanted to go to law school for himself and not for his parents.

He has a great GPA from a top Ivy, and a good resume. He was contacted for a Harvard phone interview, but does not know how to best approach the question that will surely come up: "Explain the 13 point gap in your LSAT score over three years."

Is it best to say that he studied the second time bc he was not serious about law school the first time, attributing his great score to studying hard? as in, does it hurt to emphasize the studying he did because it sounds like he "beat the test"? Because the 177 reflects his abilities, supposedly.

Thanks all.

Do t-14 schools require both a personal statement and a "statement of purpose" (see Anna Ivey)? Should I submit both?

My first choices are Columbia and NYU.

If schools do not mind/prefer a ps and a statement of purpose, I think I could keep my firebreathing essay as a standalone ps and then write a few words on why I think law school and I are a great fit.

Thanks, everybody!  ;)

So anyone wanna read this PS? I have it ready!!

Anyone?? I appreciate your thoughts.


I love my ps I wrote on firebreathing. In my opinion, it is perfect and I am ready to submit it to law schools.

I met with my pre-law advisor, however, who says my ps is crap. Yes, he is the head of all law schools in the south, head of a bunch of other law school-related leagues in the nation and claims to know every law school admissions officer on a first name basis, but something tells me his opinion might not be the only one out there.

He wants me to steer away from this particular topic/ps and go for a more "i studied this ... grew up here ... been exposed to ... worked for ... therefore law school" type ps. But coming straight out of undergrad, I think this kind of narrative is not so convincing.

Also, this dean vehemently insists that Anna Ivey is crap. Is this true?! I wrote my firebreathing essay after reading Ivey's book.

I am this close to calling up law schools and asking point blank what they make of the firebreathing essay.

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