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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Vermont Law?
« on: May 29, 2012, 10:45:21 AM »
Yeah, I read what you posted, I just didn't respond because it wasn't helpful. If you have something for me besides "don't", feel free to chime in.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Vermont Law?
« on: May 29, 2012, 10:13:03 AM »
Yeah, I have actually been laying a little groundwork in that sense, checking out local firms in Woodstock and Monty and over the river in Hanover. Enough, I'd say, of the associates/partners at those firms came from VLS that I'm not TOO worried about the chances of talking my way into some sort of internship in the area. Plus, my uncle practices in Enfield so at least I've got that going for me.

It's funny you bring that up, because I was just talking to a friend from VT (he's trying to hook me up with a job on a campaign up there) about my chances of breaking into the legal market in such a small area, and he made the great point that the opportunities are limited but if you're ambitious and show promise, they're accessible. He also used the phrase "human scale" to describe VT (we both grew up there, so we're not just talking turkey) which I thought was apt--there's not tens of thousands of people competing for every laurel or feather for your cap, so if you show ambition and promise it's possible to see doors open to you.

I made the point that VLS in particular turns out a ton of feckless enviro crusaders and other assorted do-gooders. I have no interest in that. It's not that I don't want to see the world saved, I just don't particularly care for the idea of dropping 200 granny on a JD so I can get paid $35,000 a year to lose every case I try. My point being, the areas of law I'm interested in practicing are a little more accessible and lucrative than are the areas of a particular VLS graduate. I don't know if that means I should NOT go to VLS or if that means that VLS is a kind of inspired, corkscrew pitch of a decision for me. But I guess we'll see.

Anyways, I told myself I can only justify going if I get a substantial amount of aid ("substantial" being yet to be defined, probably something like 1/3-1/2 off first year merit) and that means I have to crush, absolutely conquer, the LSAT. And I have a plan, a plan that involves me being just miserable and endlessly mired in practice tests for the next three months. I made a bombass spreadsheet and everything. Wish me luck.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Vermont Law?
« on: May 21, 2012, 02:45:18 PM »
That's great intel, thanks so much...those numbers confirm a lot of what I'd been suspecting. I was accepted by VLS once on the strength of a 3.3 GPA and a 153 LSAT, don't recall what aid I was offered. I'm not worried about my chances of being re-accepted (VLS has a 66% acceptance rate, they love their money), just the financials. It appears from those numbers that the financial aid offered, not just within my score range but in general, may be substantial enough to get me through those three years (assuming I'm reading that grid properly).

I spent a lot of time in the last few weeks justifying that debt burden to myself, and what it comes down to for me is that, yes, I do want to be an attorney. I have no starry eyed delusions about saving the world or righting wrongs. I want to practice law. If I want to feel good about myself, I'll do some volunteer work. I feel like I'm going for the right reasons--maybe not the "right" reasons, in terms of idealism, but the right reasons to assume a potentially crushing debt burden. And I want to do well at school, also. I don't want to waste my time and end up in the bottom 25% of my class. I feel like there's no reason to not try if you're planning on attending a tier 3 school.

Anyways, thanks for the input. I'll do some research and talk to some folks I know who are there/went there and see what they think. And I appreciate you being objective about it. I have a lot of friends who graduated law school in the last 2-3 years and they're all being really pessimistic about it. I appreciate them being real with me, but it's nice to hear someone tell me that you get out of it what you put into it.

Choosing the Right Law School / Vermont Law?
« on: May 20, 2012, 10:22:48 PM »
Hey ya'll. What's the consensus on Vermont Law?

I applied and was accepted five years ago when I was finishing up my BA. I declined to attend and went and started a career in politics, and now I'm ready to go back. I've got a little more perspective on things now, and I feel like law school would be a good investment now that I'm going for reasons beyond "well I just graduated and it seemed like the natural next step".

The thing about VLS is that it seems insanely expensive for such a low-ranking school, and I'm not sure what people's career prospects look like when they graduate. I'm from Vermont originally, the remoteness of the school and the smallness of the legal market in VT don't bother me. I plan on moving back to Vermont in due course, so the prospect of going to a regional school doesn't bother me either. The cost does, though.

Any perspective on the VLS experience from anyone? Is it worth it? Do they tend to offer enough financial aid to offset the cost? Is the curriculum worth a damn? Any thoughts are appreciated.


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