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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Top Environmental Law Programs
« on: May 15, 2006, 09:56:35 AM »
How important do you think it is to go to a law school that's known for environmental law, if that's what you want to practice?  Just curious...  I may be interested in doing International Environmental Law, although the school I'm gonna go to isn't on that list.  But they have some great courses in it... ???

I am also interested in knowing this... I have a feeling that you should not sacrifice too much in rankings for a specialty program, depending on what you want to do.  If you want public interest, then you may be able to sacrifice more ranking for specialty, but if you want biglaw then you should not sacrifice much at all.  I got into one school that had a pretty high environmental program, but have a hard time seeing shelling out more money for that school out of state, versus an instate school that is higher ranked.  I just don't think specialty is that important.

I should also add that I'm not 100% sure I want to practice that kind of law.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Sigh.. NYU vs UVA
« on: May 09, 2006, 01:15:25 PM »
I went to UVA undergrad, and have to say its a great place to go to school.  Perhaps for Law School it would be a bit different... NYU vs UVA atmospheres are at opposite ends of the spectrum.  Charlottesville is pretty small, but there are many good restaurants, and "the corner" is a cool hangout area.  The downtown mall is the other main attraction with lots of shops/restaurants.  If you like the outdoors there is plenty also to do there with beautiful surroundings/blue ridge mountains close by, while NYU obviously not much at all in that regard.  But if you are looking for excitement and endless diversity of things to do, then NYU is the choice.  I would guess UVA Law would be significantly more conservative than NYU... but probably a good mix of people.    

If you're a VA resident and you're in at GMU, go with GMU. Granted, they're ranked right around the same. But GMU will open more opportunities because it is in a much larger job market. The tuition is the deciding factor.

But halfie is right - always err on the side of sounding overly eager when you hear from a waitlist school.

Can you get in-state at Maryland?

Not for the first year... maybe after one year?  I'm not sure about that.

Wrong answer!  They wanted to hear you give a near-guarantee; if you call back and do that, they'll accept you.

The key is to make it a near guarantee, because you seem unsure if UMD would be your choice or not.

I guess I was too honest.  I like their environmental law program but don't know if I can justify spending that $ over GMU.

I thought that was kind of weird.  I told them I was still interested but couldn't give them a number.  They said to call back within a week because other students are chomping at the bit and they don't want to offer and then be denied. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: GMU or Wash. U?
« on: May 02, 2006, 11:05:13 AM »
Did you apply through If so, I thought it just automatically charges nothing.

yes.  as I recall it charged me but I can double check.  I'm sure they listed an application fee there so I don't see how that would attract more applicants.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: GMU or Wash. U?
« on: May 02, 2006, 10:53:58 AM »
I'm pretty sure that anyone applying to law school  receives a fee waiver. Smart strategy to keep a low admission rate. The problem is that everyone knows what they're up to.

I guess I just forgot to get mine.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: GMU or Wash. U?
« on: May 02, 2006, 10:52:19 AM »
and dont listen to anyone on here that tells you to go somewhere specific.

Aren't you steering him towards WashU while advising him not to listen to your advice?

im telling him what *i* know about washu which was disputing something said up there...i dont know anything about GMU...but also that he should go look into everything for himself. i dont care where the kid ends up--im  just tired of people asking others to make their decision for them.

Thanks for the feedback, WashU seems like a great school.  11% of the '04 class went to the South Atlantic region.  I wonder if it is generally true that the higher ranked students tend to head to the major metro areas (NY/Chi/DC).  It may be the case that class rank is more important for job placement at GMU, for big firms anyway... but perhaps not for placement in the DC area from WashU where rank may be more important.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: GMU or Wash. U?
« on: May 02, 2006, 10:38:19 AM »
Out of fairness, GMU's admission rate is so low because it gives fee waivers to everyone. People with sub-150 LSATs apply, even though they don't stand a chance in hell of getting in.

Are you saying they give fee waivers to sub-150 LSATs?  I doubt it.  I would agree however that they probably get a lower quality applicant pool than a top-20, that seems pretty obvious.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: GMU or Wash. U?
« on: May 02, 2006, 12:07:51 AM »
I don't know anything about Wash. U., but I recently chose a similarly ranked school (GW) over in-state tuition at GMU. It was a very painful decision, because of GMU's tuition. But I made up my mind after a student at GMU (who is in the top 20 percent) told me GW would open more doors. GMU is an excellent school. In fact, I bet the four semesters of legal writing are excellent preparation for a legal career. And the faculty is top-notch. The main problem is that it's such a young school and doesn't have a very strong alumni network or name recognition outside of the DC area. I have no idea how the rankings will turn out, but I would bet there is a good chance it could eventually get into the top 20 schools. But who knows how long that will take.

Just paid the deposit at Wash U so that I can put the decision off for a month....  I think you made the right choice with GW.  GMU seems to be rising fast in the rankings, but I agree the network can't be anything like GW.

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