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I feel compelled to remind Jeffcoat, once again, "Rome wasn't built in a day."  After all these years he is still green!


To be completely honest with you, I would recommend re-taking the LSAT. It seems the first time around you did not put enough effort into your studies. I'm not sure if these "law schools" are even in the United States, so you may want to factor that into your selection process. Try to set an LSAT score of 170 as your goal. I remember on one of my practice exams my score actually fell down to a 174! I had to keep reminding myself that Rome wasn't built in a day. Please re-take the LSAT for your own good.


So far I've been accepted at all three schools and each one is offering me a merit scholarship in different amounts:

Chapman: 20% tution (about $7k)
Southwestern: 18,500 (a little over 1/2 tuition)
Roger Williams: Approx. 3/4 tuition

I want to do entertainment law.  Southwestern seems like an obvious choice, but I haven't heard great things about the school in general.  I'm going to visit this weekend and make a final decision.

I loved my visit to Chapman and they have a 72% bar passage rate.  They just seem unknown outside of Orange County (but I've been known to make my own contacts all over the place). 

Also, has anyone ever try to "hustle" their financial aid money around to see if the other schools would match?  I'm going to try to do it, but if anyone has any tips, I'd appreciate it. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: this sucks..Yale vs. NYU full ride
« on: March 12, 2008, 01:02:30 AM »
Greetings once again.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: it worth it.
« on: October 20, 2006, 02:17:52 AM »
No. Plain and simple...

just took the sept. lsat.  going through worst case scenarios. 

I'm getting different resonses from everybody I ask about T4's (including some professors).

some claim its a waist a money.  the vast majority of t4 grads don't practice law because they can't find jobs. the only way they can find a job is to work in rural areas doing small practice.

other's claim that while it might be nearly impossible to work at big law, its still very possible to get a solid government or medium size firm job.

any opinions or experiences would be appreciated. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Yale 1L taking intelligent questions...
« on: October 20, 2006, 02:14:21 AM »
If you have any intelligent questions, then please feel free to ask. My credentials speak for themselves.

"Rome STILL wasn't built in a day"


Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 163/3.0 GPA, where should I apply?
« on: August 24, 2006, 05:42:19 PM »
Not a URM, lots of extracurriculars, spent the last year working w/ Americorps in New Orleans.

I am thinking of applying to Wake Forest, SMU, Case Western, American, and WUSTL (long shot, I know). What are my chances of getting into those schools? Any other suggestions? I would like to work in the northeast, mid-atlantic, south, or midwest.

It seems that someone already has given you some very wise advice. Taking the LSAT again is so beneficial to someone in your dilemma. Please keep in mind that Rome wasn't built in day, and STOP SELLING YOURSELF SHORT with a non-ivy school!!


Choosing the Right Law School / Re: this sucks..Yale vs. NYU full ride
« on: August 24, 2006, 05:39:22 PM »
Let's see. I am driven to respond to this fellow's dilemma.
And, given that this fellow is evidently a scholar, I will strive to make my advice empirically sound.
An acquaintance of mine, a female, that had been a law professor at NYU spoke highly of the place. I did think highly of this person.
My sister-in-law's boss is on the admission committee of Yale law. I now think that my sister in law is a female private part.
Go to NYU.

I chose Yale. Thanks to everyone who helped with my difficult decision.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Yale Law
« on: July 28, 2006, 04:02:26 PM »
To my future classmates,

LAW REVIEW IS MINE!! Expect pages to go missing from the law library too. It's gonna get ugly.


Honestly, I don't understand why so many of you are green. People ask questions, and I give them answers. Maybe my replies are not what the common man wants to hear but they are the truth. Stop settling for less!! Just think, one more hour per night would make a world of difference. The LSAT is crucial in the admission's process. ROME WASN'T BUILT IN A DAMN DAY!!!

-Shivenstein "The Philosopher King"

thanks goes out to all the ppl who make it possible for this thread to stay alive. without your comments, our world would be one of thoughtful discourse and understanding....if you had any familiarity with those concepts, this board would not be what it is: a fountain of hate-o-rade.

this weeks quote:

I was kind of in the same situation as you a few months back (Yale vs. NYU$$$). If I had to choose between those schools, I would have to say TAKE THE LSAT AGAIN!!. Please take my advice to heart. With some real dedication you can get that LSAT score you really want. Remember, "Rome wasn't built in a day", so set those goals a little higher and aim for Ivy!

Ron Shivenstein you are a bastard. the op started a thread about her dilema, attending hofstra ft to uop pt. now i would assume most ppl would bring up the pros and cons of each school, what decision her personal situation would merit and so on and so forth. some would even bring up similar situations to perhaps provide guidence.

But our friend Ron Shivenstein takes it to the next level. i want to believe he truly thinks he can help, but as we all know, jerks just love to talk about how prestigious they are. i am beside myself in rage that this guy. he just seeps with elitism and self importance. he knows nothing about the op's personally history, yet implores the op to LSAT again, he even says it from the heart... as though she MUST listen to his advice or face the dreadful future. getting into an ivy is a great accomplisahment, but for us mere mortals we must deal with the situation given to us as we see fit, and his elistism brings nothing to the board. this guy is trash and belongs in the trash. worst messed with a great friend of mine, which mean you can never be forgiven.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Yale Law
« on: June 27, 2006, 02:56:56 PM »
Any upstate NY people out there?


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